Hello
I want to install trac (0.11.1-2~bpo40+1) from backports. When I upgrade
to Lenny who has trac (0.11.1-2), what will happen ? Will the upgrade
process upgrade the package to Lenny's or leave it untouched ?
I'd like to hear from others who use backports in the case of server
upgrade.
Thanks
Manu
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09-11-2008, 01:25 PM
Sander Klein
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Hi,
It will be upgraded to the Lenny version because 0.11.1-2~bpo40+1 is a lower version number than 0.11.1-2. That's what the '~' is for.
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> Hello
> I want to install trac (0.11.1-2~bpo40+1) from backports. When I
> upgrade
> to Lenny who has trac (0.11.1-2), what will happen ? Will the upgrade
> process upgrade the package to Lenny's or leave it untouched ?
> I'd like to hear from others who use backports in the case of server
> upgrade.
> Thanks
> Manu
>
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09-11-2008, 02:40 PM
Matthias Haegele
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Sander Klein schrieb:
Hi,
It will be upgraded to the Lenny version because 0.11.1-2~bpo40+1 is a lower version number than 0.11.1-2. That's what the '~' is for.
btw:
apt-cache policy trac
shows which version would be installed.
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09-15-2008, 05:22 PM
Keith Edmunds
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On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:25:57 +0200, S.Klein@pictura-dp.nl said:
> It will be upgraded to the Lenny version because 0.11.1-2~bpo40+1 is a
> lower version number than 0.11.1-2. That's what the '~' is for.
True, but if you do automated updates, be careful - some of the Sarge
backports were later upgrade to post-Etch package versions, which caused
some problems for people who migrated Sarge->Etch some time after Etch's
release. (IMO, backports should NOT do that, but they did and, so far as I
know, they have not said they won't do the same in future).
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09-17-2008, 08:17 AM
Emmanuel Kasper
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Keith Edmunds schrieb:
> On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:25:57 +0200, S.Klein@pictura-dp.nl said:
>
>> It will be upgraded to the Lenny version because 0.11.1-2~bpo40+1 is a
>> lower version number than 0.11.1-2. That's what the '~' is for.
>
> True, but if you do automated updates, be careful - some of the Sarge
> backports were later upgrade to post-Etch package versions, which caused
> some problems for people who migrated Sarge->Etch some time after Etch's
> release. (IMO, backports should NOT do that, but they did and, so far as I
> know, they have not said they won't do the same in future).
>
This is an interesting information. I guess it means if you have debian
version N installed, as soon as version N+1 is released, you have to
uncomment backports from your sources list if you don't want to get
packages from N+2.
Well although it can be cumbersome for the sysadmin, I understand this
makes sense from backports point of view. Backports aims at bringing
packages from testing to stable or oldstable, and the meaning of testing
changes after each stable release.
I think I will also evaluate pkgsrc from NetBSD for my backports needs,
so i am sure it will not mess with debian packages.
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09-17-2008, 01:22 PM
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
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On Wed, 17 Sep 2008, Emmanuel Kasper wrote:
> Keith Edmunds schrieb:
> > On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:25:57 +0200, S.Klein@pictura-dp.nl said:
> >
> >> It will be upgraded to the Lenny version because 0.11.1-2~bpo40+1 is a
> >> lower version number than 0.11.1-2. That's what the '~' is for.
> >
> > True, but if you do automated updates, be careful - some of the Sarge
> > backports were later upgrade to post-Etch package versions, which caused
> > some problems for people who migrated Sarge->Etch some time after Etch's
> > release. (IMO, backports should NOT do that, but they did and, so far as I
> > know, they have not said they won't do the same in future).
>
> This is an interesting information. I guess it means if you have debian
> version N installed, as soon as version N+1 is released, you have to
> uncomment backports from your sources list if you don't want to get
> packages from N+2.
That depends on just how well the backport repositories' metadata is set up,
apt can, and DOES track the target release of a package.
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