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Old 09-12-2012, 10:32 AM
Tzafrir Cohen
 
Default Bug#687103: ITP: maps -- OpenStreetMap client for the GNOME Desktop

On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:28:16AM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 06:45:42AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> > also sprach Luca Capello <luca@pca.it> [2012.09.09.2029 +0200]:
> > > Or, if this is tightened to OSM, 'gnome-osm-maps'.
> >
> > except the 'm' on "osm" is already a "map", so maybe osm-client.
>
> I like dropping 'gnome', and not doubling-up map, but osm may not
> be clear enough to those who aren't intimately involved, how about
> openstreetmap-client?

How would that compare to the existing OSM clients currently in the
archive? Some of those are:

emerillon - map viewer for the GNOME desktop
gosmore - Openstreetmap.org viewer / wayfinder / search client
josm - Editor for OpenStreetMap
merkaartor - map editor for OpenStreetMap.org

Why can't you call it Cosmo or Osmo-Clint or any better name? (Osmo is
already used and not related to OSM)?

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Old 09-12-2012, 11:04 AM
Wookey
 
Default Bug#687103: ITP: maps -- OpenStreetMap client for the GNOME Desktop

+++ Tzafrir Cohen [2012-09-12 10:32 +0000]:
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:28:16AM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 06:45:42AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> > > also sprach Luca Capello <luca@pca.it> [2012.09.09.2029 +0200]:
> > > > Or, if this is tightened to OSM, 'gnome-osm-maps'.
> > >
> > > except the 'm' on "osm" is already a "map", so maybe osm-client.
> >
> > I like dropping 'gnome', and not doubling-up map, but osm may not
> > be clear enough to those who aren't intimately involved, how about
> > openstreetmap-client?
>
> How would that compare to the existing OSM clients currently in the
> archive? Some of those are:
>
> emerillon - map viewer for the GNOME desktop
> gosmore - Openstreetmap.org viewer / wayfinder / search client
> josm - Editor for OpenStreetMap
> merkaartor - map editor for OpenStreetMap.org

And navit and marble and foxtrotGPS and gpsdrive and viking and
gpxviewer and memphis.

Check out the big list at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Software/Desktop
to see the fairly thorough mining of this seam of names. Is this app
in that list?

Not that this burgeoning of map apps is a bad thing - no so long ago
we had none, and now our cup overfloweth. Hooray for open data. And
there is plenty of difference between many of these apps in render
mode, navigation, UI, functionality, integration, dependencies. But it
is worth examing what the particular benefits/aspects of a new app are.

I am slightly perplexed to see in that list that there is a 'Gnome Map
Application' that only runs on Windows. Funny old world.

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Old 09-12-2012, 11:45 AM
Timo Juhani Lindfors
 
Default Bug#687103: ITP: maps -- OpenStreetMap client for the GNOME Desktop

Wookey <wookey@wookware.org> writes:
> And navit and marble and foxtrotGPS and gpsdrive and viking and
> gpxviewer and memphis.

Hey you forgot monav


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Old 09-12-2012, 12:47 PM
Jon Dowland
 
Default Bug#687103: ITP: maps -- OpenStreetMap client for the GNOME Desktop

On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:03:33PM +0200, Jean-Christophe Dubacq wrote:
> Let's acknowledge that the gnome-* prefix means "to be used mostly in
> the GNOME Desktop environment" and not "officially endorsed by GNOME".
> Or something like that.

We need to distinguish between what the situation is now, and what we think
the situation should be. I believe 'gnome' should only be used by things
which are part of the GNOME project, but I haven't done any researhc into
how widespread the problem is, nor have I discussed it with the GNOME team,
nor have I proposed it as a release goal for wheezy+1. Perhaps I (or we,
or someone) should start this work before compounding the problem.


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Old 09-13-2012, 07:09 AM
Andreas Tille
 
Default Bug#687103: ITP: maps -- OpenStreetMap client for the GNOME Desktop

On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 02:45:40PM +0300, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
> Wookey <wookey@wookware.org> writes:
> > And navit and marble and foxtrotGPS and gpsdrive and viking and
> > gpxviewer and memphis.
>
> Hey you forgot monav

Do you know that there is a page which (hopefully - just tell me if I'm
wrong!) lists all OSM related applications in Debian?

http://blends.alioth.debian.org/gis/tasks/osm

Its builded using the Blends framework[1] and it is my poor share to
support the Debian GIS team (any more knowledged input about packages
that might fit into the GIS scope would be more than welcome).

Kind regards

Andreas.

[1] http://blends.alioth.debian.org/blends/

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Old 09-23-2012, 11:08 PM
Chris Bannister
 
Default Bug#687103: ITP: maps -- OpenStreetMap client for the GNOME Desktop

On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:28:16AM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 06:45:42AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> > also sprach Luca Capello <luca@pca.it> [2012.09.09.2029 +0200]:
> > > Or, if this is tightened to OSM, 'gnome-osm-maps'.
> >
> > except the 'm' on "osm" is already a "map", so maybe osm-client.
>
> I like dropping 'gnome', and not doubling-up map, but osm may not
> be clear enough to those who aren't intimately involved, how about
> openstreetmap-client?

If it pulls in half of GNOME when you install it, its nice to have the
name "gnome" in there somewhere.

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Old 09-24-2012, 09:32 AM
Jon Dowland
 
Default Bug#687103: ITP: maps -- OpenStreetMap client for the GNOME Desktop

On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 11:08:31AM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
> If it pulls in half of GNOME when you install it, its nice to have the
> name "gnome" in there somewhere.

Well I disagree, but either way, it doesn't:

> Depends: ${miscepends},
> ${pythonepends},
> gir1.2-champlain-0.12,
> gir1.2-gtkchamplain-0.12,
> gir1.2-gtk-3.0,
> gir1.2-glib-2.0,
> gir1.2-clutter-1.0,
> gir1.2-gdkpixbuf-2.0,
> python-lxml,
> gir1.2-gtkclutter-1.0

I don't see 'libgnome' anywhere.

http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~sigurdga/maps/master/view/head:/debian/control


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