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Old 04-13-2008, 08:24 PM
Martin Sourada
 
Default Nodoka Notification Theme

> And i have a nice update on the mockup.
>
> Changelog
> - bottom bar fully adjusted to fit the nodoka theme
> - notification balloon content is greadly adjusted with a real world
> scenario (asymetric thing not solved yet)
> - - Added close image in the balloon
> - - added orange bar (nice style and can be any colour)
> - - added a image of the updates (64x64 fits nicely there)
> - - played with font sized and bold
> - added the desktop image to the bottom bar (men that image just
> doesn't fit that style)
> - Changed the bottom bar buttons
> - - Made them a bit lighter
> - - Made the effects a little more "glowy/glossy"
>
> And you can see the changes in the image here:
> http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/3089/fedora10mockupv02nf6.png
>
> To me it looks really nice now! Hope you think the same.
>
Sorry for the really late answer, but I've not managed to get some spare
time to take a closer look at it up until now. I'll focus only on the
notification part (for now). First about your sketch.

What I like:
* Rounded corners, might be even more rounded
* Soft gradients

What I don't like
* Stripe padded
* Usage of not very fitting, IMHO, type of gradient in the stripe
* "Inner outline"
* Close button hardly visible, cursive-like
* Padding too small for text

Now why I waited with the answer so long. I've set up a wiki page for
tracking the progress (both art and coding) of the notification theme
and put my design on that as well. It's based of yours, yet it's
different a lot.

* I used warmer colours for the basic background, similar to that used
in tooltips
* I rounded the corners more
* I use only one type of gradient, two different settings (one for fill,
another for outline)
* I used close icon (and all other icons) from the icon theme I have
currently set (echo, with fall-back to gnome).

The wiki page (with SVGs and PNGs) is there:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/NodokaTheme/NotifyDRAFT

Comparison of the current notify and the sketch, as it looks on whole F9
desktop is there:
http://mso.fedorapeople.org/nodoka/notify/preview/notify-orig.png
http://mso.fedorapeople.org/nodoka/notify/preview/notify.png

The *-orig-* images, save for the screen shot of whole desktop, are real
screen shots, I used notify-send application to display them, all the
rest is either collage or work from scratch.

Comments welcome,
Martin
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Old 04-14-2008, 12:06 AM
Mark
 
Default Nodoka Notification Theme

2008/4/13, Martin Sourada <martin.sourada@gmail.com>:
> > And i have a nice update on the mockup.
> >
> > Changelog
> > - bottom bar fully adjusted to fit the nodoka theme
> > - notification balloon content is greadly adjusted with a real world
> > scenario (asymetric thing not solved yet)
> > - - Added close image in the balloon
> > - - added orange bar (nice style and can be any colour)
> > - - added a image of the updates (64x64 fits nicely there)
> > - - played with font sized and bold
> > - added the desktop image to the bottom bar (men that image just
> > doesn't fit that style)
> > - Changed the bottom bar buttons
> > - - Made them a bit lighter
> > - - Made the effects a little more "glowy/glossy"
> >
> > And you can see the changes in the image here:
> > http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/3089/fedora10mockupv02nf6.png
> >
> > To me it looks really nice now! Hope you think the same.
> >
> Sorry for the really late answer, but I've not managed to get some spare
> time to take a closer look at it up until now. I'll focus only on the
> notification part (for now). First about your sketch.
>
> What I like:
> * Rounded corners, might be even more rounded
> * Soft gradients
>
> What I don't like
> * Stripe padded
> * Usage of not very fitting, IMHO, type of gradient in the stripe
> * "Inner outline"
> * Close button hardly visible, cursive-like
> * Padding too small for text
>
> Now why I waited with the answer so long. I've set up a wiki page for
> tracking the progress (both art and coding) of the notification theme
> and put my design on that as well. It's based of yours, yet it's
> different a lot.
>
> * I used warmer colours for the basic background, similar to that used
> in tooltips
> * I rounded the corners more
> * I use only one type of gradient, two different settings (one for fill,
> another for outline)
> * I used close icon (and all other icons) from the icon theme I have
> currently set (echo, with fall-back to gnome).
>
> The wiki page (with SVGs and PNGs) is there:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/NodokaTheme/NotifyDRAFT
>
> Comparison of the current notify and the sketch, as it looks on whole F9
> desktop is there:
> http://mso.fedorapeople.org/nodoka/notify/preview/notify-orig.png
> http://mso.fedorapeople.org/nodoka/notify/preview/notify.png
>
> The *-orig-* images, save for the screen shot of whole desktop, are real
> screen shots, I used notify-send application to display them, all the
> rest is either collage or work from scratch.
>
> Comments welcome,
>
> Martin

i like it for nodoka but a blue like notify theme could look even
better (don't know).

The mockup i made wasn't really fitting in with nodoka now that i saw this ^_^

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Old 04-18-2008, 09:31 AM
Martin Sourada
 
Default Nodoka Notification Theme

Hi all,

I've put together some working code of the nodoka notification theme.
Here's a first screen shot of it in action:

http://mso.fedorapeople.org/nodoka/notify/preview/notify-new.png

The code is available at git:

http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=nodoka;a=tree;f=notification-daemon-engine-nodoka;hb=HEAD

To install and start using it I'll start publishing i386 rpms some time
in the future, until then you need to do the following:

git clone git://git.fedorahosted.org/nodoka
cd nodoka/notification-daemon-engine-nodoka
./autogen.sh
./configure --prefix=/usr
make
su
make install
exit

Then you'll need to set gconf key /apps/notification-daemon/theme to
nodoka. You can use for example gconf-editor to do that. Probably you'll
need to restart the daemon (killall -9 notification-daemon), but maybe
it's not necessary.

What is missing?
* countdown timer; if present, grey rectangle shows instead
* arrow; if present the window is just bigger and positioned in
top-left corner...

If you happen to find another feature that's missing feel free to let me
know about it (screen shot and steps how to make that feature used would
help a lot).

Please note that I am currently aiming at 0.1.0 release which is
supposed to just work (and therefore need to support all the features
notification-daemon supports) - design will be refined at 0.2.0, but I
accept suggestions on that as well

Comments welcome,
Martin

PS: I hope to get this into F10 as default notification theme, so once I
release 0.1.0 I'll get it to rawhide and ask for opinions and testing on
fedoraforum as well

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Old 04-20-2008, 08:26 PM
Mark
 
Default Nodoka Notification Theme

2008/4/18, Martin Sourada <martin.sourada@gmail.com>:
> Hi all,
>
> I've put together some working code of the nodoka notification theme.
> Here's a first screen shot of it in action:
>
> http://mso.fedorapeople.org/nodoka/notify/preview/notify-new.png
>
> The code is available at git:
>
> http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=nodoka;a=tree;f=notification-daemon-engine-nodoka;hb=HEAD
>
> To install and start using it I'll start publishing i386 rpms some time
> in the future, until then you need to do the following:
>
> git clone git://git.fedorahosted.org/nodoka
> cd nodoka/notification-daemon-engine-nodoka
> ./autogen.sh
> ./configure --prefix=/usr
> make
> su
> make install
> exit
>
> Then you'll need to set gconf key /apps/notification-daemon/theme to
> nodoka. You can use for example gconf-editor to do that. Probably you'll
> need to restart the daemon (killall -9 notification-daemon), but maybe
> it's not necessary.
>
> What is missing?
> * countdown timer; if present, grey rectangle shows instead
> * arrow; if present the window is just bigger and positioned in
> top-left corner...
>
> If you happen to find another feature that's missing feel free to let me
> know about it (screen shot and steps how to make that feature used would
> help a lot).
>
> Please note that I am currently aiming at 0.1.0 release which is
> supposed to just work (and therefore need to support all the features
> notification-daemon supports) - design will be refined at 0.2.0, but I
> accept suggestions on that as well
>
> Comments welcome,
> Martin
>
> PS: I hope to get this into F10 as default notification theme, so once I
> release 0.1.0 I'll get it to rawhide and ask for opinions and testing on
> fedoraforum as well
>

looks good so far!
i hope you can get it in Fedora 10.

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Old 07-14-2008, 10:03 AM
Martin Sourada
 
Default Nodoka notification theme

Hi,

as some of you might know, I'd like to make new notification theme (the
currently ugly bubbles [0] with various messages like package updates,
battery status, incoming mail, etc.) for Fedora 10 and I am quite
unsure, as it is rather a small change, albeit quite visible, whether to
create a Feature page for it. The current status is:

I've released first public release for testing [1] nearly three months
ago, and have been using it since then without any issues, also so far
nobody reported any bugs against it. It is also available in Fedora [2]
and in order to get it used, you currently need to set gconf
'/apps/notification-daemon/theme' key to 'nodoka' (without the quotes).
I believe Mathias added some patch to the appearances caplet to set it
by itself if specified in the gnome meta-theme, but it does not seem to
work currently in rawhide. No gui for selection the theme is available
ATM AFAIK. Also there is an issue with the notification-daemon that it
crashes when theme is changed, I haven't filled a bug yet (but will
probably do so soon).

As AFAIK it is a first notification daemon engine/theme created
separately from the notification daemon itself, it also needs some wider
testing if everything works as expected. For those interested only in
the looks, I also have some screenshots available [3][4]. I use
compositing when available so the bubbles look slightly better if you
have compositing on, either via metacity, compiz or anything else (I use
rawhide metacity with compositing on and it works well with it).

For test-list:
------------------------------------------------------------------------
I'd be grateful for any testers willing to test this and reporting any
issues so that users in F10 will get only the improved experience of the
new design and no problems caused by regressions or bugs. You can report
issues both in upstream trac [5] or in rhbz.
------------------------------------------------------------------------

For art-list:
------------------------------------------------------------------------
For next release - which will be the one in F10 - I hope to improve the
design a little and with enabled compositing perhaps add some animation
when showing/hiding (starting from fully transparent, ending with
semi-transparent and vice versa). Any suggestions in this matter?
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Thanks for your comments,
Martin

References:
[0] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/nodoka/notify/preview/notify-orig.png
[1]
https://fedorahosted.org/releases/n/o/nodoka/notification-daemon-engine-nodoka-0.1.0.tar.gz
[2] http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=6197
[3]
http://mso.fedorapeople.org/nodoka/notify/preview/notify-new-with-compositing.png
[4] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/nodoka/notify/preview/notify-new.png
[5] https://fedorahosted.org/nodoka/newticket
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Old 07-14-2008, 10:03 AM
Martin Sourada
 
Default Nodoka notification theme

Hi,

as some of you might know, I'd like to make new notification theme (the
currently ugly bubbles [0] with various messages like package updates,
battery status, incoming mail, etc.) for Fedora 10 and I am quite
unsure, as it is rather a small change, albeit quite visible, whether to
create a Feature page for it. The current status is:

I've released first public release for testing [1] nearly three months
ago, and have been using it since then without any issues, also so far
nobody reported any bugs against it. It is also available in Fedora [2]
and in order to get it used, you currently need to set gconf
'/apps/notification-daemon/theme' key to 'nodoka' (without the quotes).
I believe Mathias added some patch to the appearances caplet to set it
by itself if specified in the gnome meta-theme, but it does not seem to
work currently in rawhide. No gui for selection the theme is available
ATM AFAIK. Also there is an issue with the notification-daemon that it
crashes when theme is changed, I haven't filled a bug yet (but will
probably do so soon).

As AFAIK it is a first notification daemon engine/theme created
separately from the notification daemon itself, it also needs some wider
testing if everything works as expected. For those interested only in
the looks, I also have some screenshots available [3][4]. I use
compositing when available so the bubbles look slightly better if you
have compositing on, either via metacity, compiz or anything else (I use
rawhide metacity with compositing on and it works well with it).

For test-list:
------------------------------------------------------------------------
I'd be grateful for any testers willing to test this and reporting any
issues so that users in F10 will get only the improved experience of the
new design and no problems caused by regressions or bugs. You can report
issues both in upstream trac [5] or in rhbz.
------------------------------------------------------------------------

For art-list:
------------------------------------------------------------------------
For next release - which will be the one in F10 - I hope to improve the
design a little and with enabled compositing perhaps add some animation
when showing/hiding (starting from fully transparent, ending with
semi-transparent and vice versa). Any suggestions in this matter?
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Thanks for your comments,
Martin

References:
[0] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/nodoka/notify/preview/notify-orig.png
[1]
https://fedorahosted.org/releases/n/o/nodoka/notification-daemon-engine-nodoka-0.1.0.tar.gz
[2] http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=6197
[3]
http://mso.fedorapeople.org/nodoka/notify/preview/notify-new-with-compositing.png
[4] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/nodoka/notify/preview/notify-new.png
[5] https://fedorahosted.org/nodoka/newticket
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Old 07-14-2008, 03:32 PM
Matthias Clasen
 
Default Nodoka notification theme

On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 12:03 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote:

> I believe Mathias added some patch to the appearances caplet to set it
> by itself if specified in the gnome meta-theme, but it does not seem to
> work currently in rawhide. No gui for selection the theme is available
> ATM AFAIK. Also there is an issue with the notification-daemon that it
> crashes when theme is changed, I haven't filled a bug yet (but will
> probably do so soon).

Please file bugs for these issues and I'll look into it.

Thanks,

Matthias

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Old 07-14-2008, 05:46 PM
Martin Sourada
 
Default Nodoka notification theme

On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 11:32 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 12:03 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote:
>
> > I believe Mathias added some patch to the appearances caplet to set it
> > by itself if specified in the gnome meta-theme, but it does not seem to
> > work currently in rawhide. No gui for selection the theme is available
> > ATM AFAIK. Also there is an issue with the notification-daemon that it
> > crashes when theme is changed, I haven't filled a bug yet (but will
> > probably do so soon).
>
> Please file bugs for these issues and I'll look into it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Matthias
I've filled the notification-daemon bug (as it is reproducible on F9 as
well) [1], I'll recheck the issue of not changing the notify theme if
specified in meta theme when I get back to rawhide (I didn't look if
everything was set as expected) and if it really does not work when
expected, I'll file a bug as well.

Thanks,
Martin

References:
[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=455289
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Old 07-14-2008, 06:54 PM
Rahul Sundaram
 
Default Nodoka notification theme

Martin Sourada wrote:

Hi,

as some of you might know, I'd like to make new notification theme (the
currently ugly bubbles [0] with various messages like package updates,
battery status, incoming mail, etc.) for Fedora 10 and I am quite
unsure, as it is rather a small change, albeit quite visible, whether to
create a Feature page for it.


It is a visible change and requires testing from more folks. I guess
that would qualify for making it a feature.


Rahul

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Old 07-14-2008, 06:54 PM
Rahul Sundaram
 
Default Nodoka notification theme

Martin Sourada wrote:

Hi,

as some of you might know, I'd like to make new notification theme (the
currently ugly bubbles [0] with various messages like package updates,
battery status, incoming mail, etc.) for Fedora 10 and I am quite
unsure, as it is rather a small change, albeit quite visible, whether to
create a Feature page for it.


It is a visible change and requires testing from more folks. I guess
that would qualify for making it a feature.


Rahul

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