The following package pairs:
1) are co-installable,
2) both ship binaries with the same name, but in different directories
within $PATH (e.g. one in /usr/bin, another in /usr/sbin):


sethdlc: ax25-tools dahdi
crm: crm114 pacemaker
cutter: cutter-testing-framework-bin cutter
gearmand: gearman-job-server gearman-server
update-locale: gosa-dev locales
sendpage: hylafax-client sendpage-server
rpcinfo: libc-bin rpcbind
lid: libuser id-utils
nfsiostat: nfs-common sysstat
vmware-user-suid-wrapper: open-vm-tools open-vm-toolbox
ptest: pacemaker parmetis-test
siggen: siggen tripwire
tcpd: tcm tcpd
vuname: util-vserver umview

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On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 15:37 +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote:
> The following package pairs:
> 1) are co-installable,
> 2) both ship binaries with the same name, but in different directories
> within $PATH (e.g. one in /usr/bin, another in /usr/sbin):
>
> sethdlc: ax25-tools dahdi
> crm: crm114 pacemaker
> cutter: cutter-testing-framework-bin cutter
> gearmand: gearman-job-server gearman-server
> update-locale: gosa-dev locales
> sendpage: hylafax-client sendpage-server
> rpcinfo: libc-bin rpcbind

The rpcbind protocol is a later version of the portmap protocol which is
(partly) implemented in libc. In theory, both versions can be supported
in the same executable, but they aren't. I think rpcbind should divert
the libc-provided rpcinfo command.

Ben.

> lid: libuser id-utils
> nfsiostat: nfs-common sysstat
> vmware-user-suid-wrapper: open-vm-tools open-vm-toolbox
> ptest: pacemaker parmetis-test
> siggen: siggen tripwire
> tcpd: tcm tcpd
> vuname: util-vserver umview
>
> Any volunteers to file bugs?


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Jakub Wilk writes ("node-like file conflicts"):
> The following package pairs:
> 1) are co-installable,
> 2) both ship binaries with the same name, but in different directories
> within $PATH (e.g. one in /usr/bin, another in /usr/sbin):
>
> sethdlc: ax25-tools dahdi
> crm: crm114 pacemaker
> cutter: cutter-testing-framework-bin cutter
> gearmand: gearman-job-server gearman-server
> update-locale: gosa-dev locales
> sendpage: hylafax-client sendpage-server
> rpcinfo: libc-bin rpcbind
> lid: libuser id-utils
> nfsiostat: nfs-common sysstat
> vmware-user-suid-wrapper: open-vm-tools open-vm-toolbox
> ptest: pacemaker parmetis-test
> siggen: siggen tripwire
> tcpd: tcm tcpd
> vuname: util-vserver umview
>
> Any volunteers to file bugs?

Yes, I'm willing to volunteer. I will do so in a few days if no-one
objects.

I'll double check the facts of course. If I have also see if I can
understand the situation in each case well enough to make a
recommendation. It seems at the very least that many of these issues
are "within" a particular family of packages. Hopefully they won't
mostly be as bad as "node".

Ian.


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On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 16:15 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:

> I'll double check the facts of course. If I have also see if I can
> understand the situation in each case well enough to make a
> recommendation. It seems at the very least that many of these issues
> are "within" a particular family of packages. Hopefully they won't
> mostly be as bad as "node".

It would also probably be good to distinguish between pairs that have
the same binary name offering essentially the same semantics (e.g. crm
and crm114) and unrelated binaries that happen to have the same name
(e.g. lid and libuser).

Also siggen is paired with itself in that list.

Weldon


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* Weldon Goree <weldon@b.rontosaur.us>, 2012-08-06, 11:24:

Also siggen is paired with itself in that list.


No, the list is in format:

<binary>: <package1> <package2>

Sorry, I should have written it in my original message - now I see it's
not obvious.


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On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 17:39 +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote:

> No, the list is in format:

D'oh. Thanks. I'll still see if I can tease out which of those are
binaries trying to do the same thing and which are completely unrelated.

Weldon


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On Aug 06, Jakub Wilk <jwilk@debian.org> wrote:

> gearmand: gearman-job-server gearman-server
These are two implementation of the same protocol.

> tcpd: tcm tcpd
I hope it is obvious that we cannot rename the real tcpd. :-)

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* Jakub Wilk <jwilk@debian.org>, 2012-08-06, 15:37:

The following package pairs:
1) are co-installable,
2) both ship binaries with the same name, but in different
directories within $PATH (e.g. one in /usr/bin, another in
/usr/sbin):


I forgot to attach dd-list. Doing so now.

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Adam C. Powell, IV <hazelsct@debian.org>
parmetis-test (U)

Adam Conrad <adconrad@0c3.net>
libc-bin (U)
locales (U)

Alberto Gonzalez Iniesta <agi@inittab.org>
tripwire

Anibal Monsalve Salazar <anibal@debian.org>
nfs-common (U)
pacemaker (U)
rpcbind

Aurelien Jarno <aurel32@debian.org>
libc-bin (U)
locales (U)

Aurélien GÉRÔME <ag@roxor.cx>
cutter

Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk>
nfs-common (U)

Bradley A. Bosch <brad@debian.org>
id-utils

Cajus Pollmeier <cajus@debian.org>
gosa-dev (U)

Christophe Prud'homme <prudhomm@debian.org>
parmetis-test (U)

Clint Adams <clint@debian.org>
libc-bin (U)
locales (U)

Daniel Baumann <daniel.baumann@progress-technologies.net>
open-vm-toolbox
open-vm-tools

Debian HA Maintainers <debian-ha-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org>
pacemaker

Debian Hamradio Maintainers <debian-hams@lists.debian.org>
ax25-tools

Debian kernel team <debian-kernel@lists.debian.org>
nfs-common

Debian Perl Group <pkg-perl-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org>
gearman-server

Debian Science Team <debian-science-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org>
parmetis-test

Debian VoIP Team <pkg-voip-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org>
dahdi

Debian VSquare Team <pkg-vsquare-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org>
umview

Filippo Giunchedi <filippo@debian.org>
umview (U)

Frederik Schüler <fs@debian.org>
pacemaker (U)

Ghe Rivero <ghe@debian.org>
libuser

Giuseppe Sacco <eppesuig@debian.org>
hylafax-client

GNU Libc Maintainers <debian-glibc@lists.debian.org>
libc-bin
locales

GOsa packages maintainers group <gosa-pkg@oss.gonicus.de>
gosa-dev

gregor herrmann <gregoa@debian.org>
gearman-server (U)

Guido Trotter <ultrotter@debian.org>
umview (U)

Hamish Moffatt <hamish@debian.org>
ax25-tools (U)

Jaime Robles <jaime@debian.org>
ax25-tools (U)

Joachim Wiedorn <ad_debian@joonet.de>
hylafax-client (U)

Jonathan Yu <jawnsy@cpan.org>
gearman-server (U)

Kees Cook <kees@debian.org>
sendpage-server

Ludovico Gardenghi <garden@debian.org>
umview (U)

Luk Claes <luk@debian.org>
nfs-common (U)
rpcbind (U)

Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it>
tcpd

Mark Purcell <msp@debian.org>
dahdi (U)

Martin Loschwitz <madkiss@debian.org>
pacemaker (U)

Micah Anderson <micah@debian.org>
util-vserver

Milan Zamazal <pdm@debian.org>
crm114

NIIBE Yutaka <gniibe@fsij.org>
cutter-testing-framework-bin

Ola Lundqvist <opal@debian.org>
util-vserver (U)

Otavio Salvador <otavio@debian.org>
tcm

Patrick Ouellette <pouelle@debian.org>
ax25-tools (U)

Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan <rkrishnan@debian.org>
ax25-tools (U)

Robert Luberda <robert@debian.org>
sysstat

Simon Horman <horms@debian.org>
pacemaker (U)

Stig Sandbeck Mathisen <ssm@debian.org>
gearman-job-server

Thorsten Alteholz <debian@alteholz.de>
siggen

Tzafrir Cohen <tzafrir@debian.org>
dahdi (U)

Le lundi 06 août 2012 Ã* 15:37 +0200, Jakub Wilk a écrit :
> The following package pairs:
> 1) are co-installable,
> 2) both ship binaries with the same name, but in different directories
> within $PATH (e.g. one in /usr/bin, another in /usr/sbin):

Thanks.

There’s also epiphany (maybe your forgot /usr/games).

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On 08/06/2012 03:37 PM, Jakub Wilk wrote:
> The following package pairs:
> 1) are co-installable,
> 2) both ship binaries with the same name, but in different directories
> within $PATH (e.g. one in /usr/bin, another in /usr/sbin):
>
> sethdlc: ax25-tools dahdi
> crm: crm114 pacemaker
> cutter: cutter-testing-framework-bin cutter
> gearmand: gearman-job-server gearman-server
> update-locale: gosa-dev locales
> sendpage: hylafax-client sendpage-server
> rpcinfo: libc-bin rpcbind
> lid: libuser id-utils
> nfsiostat: nfs-common sysstat
> vmware-user-suid-wrapper: open-vm-tools open-vm-toolbox

They even build from the same source.... yet another thing to fix for
Wheezy.

> ptest: pacemaker parmetis-test
> siggen: siggen tripwire
> tcpd: tcm tcpd
> vuname: util-vserver umview
>
> Any volunteers to file bugs?
>


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