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Old 08-02-2012, 03:50 PM
Felix Berlakovich
 
Default AW: Low acceptance of Elektra

This looks promising, but I would love to see services like apache, samba or ssh using Elektra. I think that having a single configuration interface can be much more convenient than getting used to several different configuration file formats.

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Von: Simon Busch [mailto:morphis@gravedo.de]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 02. August 2012 14:54
An: Felix Berlakovich
Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Betreff: Re: Low acceptance of Elektra

Am 02.08.2012 14:21, schrieb Felix Berlakovich:
> Hi all,
>
>
> I recently stumbled over Elektra (http://www.libelektra.org/ <http://www.libelektra.org/> but the page seems to be unreachable at the time of this writing) and because I find the idea of a central configuration store very interesting I've done some research. Anyway I had to realize that its acceptance is generally very low although I think it could provide some huge advantages to tools like webmin. Are there any technical reasons for this that I am missing? I know that there are some elektra packages in the repo but I cannot find any projects making use of it. Is there any effort in patching some of the major services to make use of libelektra?

As far as I know Tizen is using elektra in it's 1.0 version (which includes debian packages for it in their repositories as well).

regards,
Simon

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Old 08-02-2012, 07:24 PM
Felix Berlakovich
 
Default AW: Low acceptance of Elektra

Augeas looks really nice but it misses some of the advantages beside easy parsing. For example restricting access to parts of a configuration to specific users or groups is only possible by splitting the configuration file. This makes the management of configuration files even harder. Another advantage is the possibility of different storage backends which enables any services to store its configuration for example in a database. I understand that the need for upstream projects to make massive changes is kind a showstopper but nevertheless the interest in Elektra seems to be low.

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Von: Ulrich Dangel [mailto:uli@spamt.net]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 02. August 2012 18:58
An: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Betreff: Re: Low acceptance of Elektra

On 08/02/12 14:21, Felix Berlakovich wrote:

> I recently stumbled over Elektra (http://www.libelektra.org/
<http://www.libelektra.org/> but the page seems to be unreachable at the time of this writing) and because I find the idea of a central configuration store very interesting I've done some research. Anyway I had to realize that its acceptance is generally very low although I think it could provide some huge advantages to tools like webmin.

If you want an API to access and modify configuration files have a look at <http://augeas.net/>. It basically transforms a configuration file into a tree and offers an API for traversing/modifying the tree with XPath like expressions.

The great benefit is that the augeas api is really simple, and you can basically transform most configuration files. There is also _no_ need for upstream projects to modify their configuration format, they can either just provide appropriate lenses themselves or wait for contributions.


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