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Old 04-11-2008, 02:29 PM
Osamu Aoki
 
Default Bug#475361: ITP: chkconfig -- system tool to enable or disable system services

Hi,

I can mention old bug...

On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 02:25:14PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
> Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag, 10. April 2008 schrieb Michael Biebl:
> >> What's the advantage over exisiting tools like sysv-rc-conf?
> >
> > 1. chkconfig works solely on the command line.
>
> sysv-rc-conf has both a command line interface and a ncurses based
> interface.
> I don't see, why command-line only should be an advantage.
>
> >
> > 2. sysv-rc-conf is mostly unmaintained and broken for some (of my) practical
> > uses.
>
> Do you have any references (e.g. bug numbers). sysv-rc-conf seems to
> work fine for me.
>

#285850 and all bugs realted to floating service. Most of these bugs
are around 2-3 years old.

> >
> > 3. chkconfig is simpler and more convenient.
>
> Could you elaborate on that.
>
> sysv-rc-conf $service on|off
>
> is very convenient and I'm not sure if it can be made any simpler.
>
> > 4. chkconfig is well known for users coming from Red Hat and SUSE.
>
> ok.
>
> >
> > 5. chkconfig works well with the new insserv.
>
> Could you elaborate on that? What's the problem with sysv-rc-conf and
> insserv?

Really, I do not use neither but when I was updating Debian Reference
for newbie, I thought such tool should help. There were more oroblem
using it for me. I use mc for such task when I feel lazy on typing.

Osamu


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Old 04-12-2008, 12:46 AM
Osamu Aoki
 
Default Bug#475361: ITP: chkconfig -- system tool to enable or disable system services

On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 04:53:52PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
> Osamu Aoki wrote:
>
> >>
> >>> 5. chkconfig works well with the new insserv.
> >> Could you elaborate on that? What's the problem with sysv-rc-conf and
> >> insserv?
> >
> > Really, I do not use neither but when I was updating Debian Reference
> > for newbie, I thought such tool should help. There were more oroblem
> > using it for me. I use mc for such task when I feel lazy on typing.
> >
> > Osamu
> >
>
> I don't have any objections against chkconfig being packaged for Debian.
> I simply wanted to know, why Peter considers it superiour to other
> alternatives and if I should reconsider using sysv-rc-conf (which I have
> used and recommended to others up until now).
>
> If insserv is really enabled by default for lenny, and chkconfig is the
> only tool working properly with insserv, then we should recommend
> chkconfig over other tools.
>
> Cheers,
> Michael

Me either. My comment location was a bit confusing.

As long as new tool is better maintained and have less problem (floating
servce handling, protection from system shutdown with multiple key
inputs, ....) I would love to get new tool. I am curious too.

When packaging this new tool, please check if this new tool suffer
proplem reported to sysv-rc-conf.

Osamu


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