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Old 05-29-2012, 02:25 AM
Brian May
 
Default Packaging on GitHub ?

On 28 May 2012 21:16, Toni Mueller <toni@debian.org> wrote:
>> This is not a good idea: http://mako.cc/writing/hill-free_tools.html
>
> MUCH seconded. Thanks for sharing the link!

I don't see the problem, github is just a hosting provider. Unlike,
say Bitkeeper, you are free to make git clones anywhere, entirely with
open source software, and are in no way locked down to using github.

Except maybe features like the issue tracking, which may not be really
appropriate for Debian packages anyway. Debian has its own BTS that
should be used.

Anyway, if github is still a problem, try http://gitorious.org/ - I
believe that it is based entirely on open source software.
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Old 05-29-2012, 05:07 AM
Miles Bader
 
Default Packaging on GitHub ?

Brian May <brian@microcomaustralia.com.au> writes:
>>> This is not a good idea: http://mako.cc/writing/hill-free_tools.html
>>
>> MUCH seconded. Thanks for sharing the link!
>
> I don't see the problem, github is just a hosting provider. Unlike,
> say Bitkeeper, you are free to make git clones anywhere, entirely with
> open source software, and are in no way locked down to using github.
>
> Except maybe features like the issue tracking, which may not be really
> appropriate for Debian packages anyway. Debian has its own BTS that
> should be used.

Github issue tracking is very bare-bones, and they provide a
convenient API that can be used to extract all information from it (or
add new info); moving a project from github to a new service wouldn't
be a huge task (if the new service provides equivalent functionality).
Moreover, these days it's not uncommon to maintain a project on
multiple sites simultaneously...

So the amount of "lockin" with github seems fairly minimal.

[Mako-hill's paper is well-intended, but seems a little dated in its
assumptions.]

-Miles

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Old 05-29-2012, 06:07 AM
Yao Wei (魏銘廷)
 
Default Packaging on GitHub ?

I am thinking about a more general topic like:
Managing packaging on VCS services other than Alioth

I think it is not good to focus on a specific service or tool.

Just 2 cents.

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P.S. AFAIK pkg-ime is currently syncing pkg-ime packaging with GitHub
for backup, for checking out them at Alioth's downage.


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Old 05-29-2012, 03:54 PM
Bernd Zeimetz
 
Default Packaging on GitHub ?

On 05/29/2012 08:07 AM, Yao Wei (*銘廷) wrote:
> I am thinking about a more general topic like:
> Managing packaging on VCS services other than Alioth

The other way rounds works well, too - package wherever you like to and
mirror it on Alioth, for example in your personal git folder in your home.

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Old 05-30-2012, 03:33 AM
Ivan Shmakov
 
Default Packaging on GitHub ?

>>>>> Thorsten Glaser <tg@mirbsd.de> writes:
>>>>> Charles Plessy dixit:

>> upstream source moved to GitHub, and we would like to try to
>> maintain the Debian package there as well.

> This is not a good idea: http://mako.cc/writing/hill-free_tools.html

That's why I tend to advocate for the use of Gitorious instead.

--cut: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gitorious --
CAPTION: Gitorious

Developer(s) Shortcut AS
Written in Ruby
Operating system Cross-platform
Available in English
Type Project management software
License GNU Affero General Public License
Website https://gitorious.org/gitorious/
--cut: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gitorious --

PS. An RFP, perhaps?

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Old 05-30-2012, 11:24 AM
Bernd Zeimetz
 
Default Packaging on GitHub ?

On 05/30/2012 05:33 AM, Ivan Shmakov wrote:
>>>>>> Thorsten Glaser <tg@mirbsd.de> writes:
>>>>>> Charles Plessy dixit:
>
> >> upstream source moved to GitHub, and we would like to try to
> >> maintain the Debian package there as well.
>
> > This is not a good idea: http://mako.cc/writing/hill-free_tools.html
>
> That's why I tend to advocate for the use of Gitorious instead.

Imho the site is more confusing than anything else - unfortunately.

> --cut: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gitorious --
> CAPTION: Gitorious
>
> Developer(s) Shortcut AS
> Written in Ruby
> Operating system Cross-platform
> Available in English
> Type Project management software
> License GNU Affero General Public License
> Website https://gitorious.org/gitorious/
> --cut: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gitorious --
>
> PS. An RFP, perhaps?

Better look into packaging gitlabhq.


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