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Old 08-13-2011, 08:29 PM
Patrick Matthäi
 
Default Release Update: Goals, Arches, Rolling, Removals

Am 13.08.2011 21:59, schrieb Jakub Wilk:
> * Neil McGovern <neilm@debian.org>, 2011-08-01, 22:07:
>> As noted in our previous mail [0DAYDA], bug #625449 has been opened
>> against developers-reference. This now seems to be drawing itself to a
>> conclusion. We would still welcome use of delayed queues where
>> appropriate, but this also formalises the policy over the previous few
>> years which allows DELAYED/0 for uploads fixing only release-critical
>> bugs older than 7 days, with no maintainer activity on the bug for
>> days and no indication that a fix is in progress.
>
> If you decide to NMU without delay a package maintained by me[0], please
> don't bother doing it, but orphan the package instead. I won't be
> interested in maintaining such a package anymore.
>
> [0] That is, with the Maintainer field set to me.
>

There is no need to be sulk. Debian wants to reach some quality and also
to finish release goals and NMUing is crucial to reach everything.

I don't think, that it is a problem, to react within seven days @ a bug
(RC bug in this case), or not? If not, why (except of VAC)?

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Old 08-13-2011, 09:34 PM
Luk Claes
 
Default Release Update: Goals, Arches, Rolling, Removals

On 08/13/2011 09:59 PM, Jakub Wilk wrote:
> * Neil McGovern <neilm@debian.org>, 2011-08-01, 22:07:
>> As noted in our previous mail [0DAYDA], bug #625449 has been opened
>> against developers-reference. This now seems to be drawing itself to a
>> conclusion. We would still welcome use of delayed queues where
>> appropriate, but this also formalises the policy over the previous few
>> years which allows DELAYED/0 for uploads fixing only release-critical
>> bugs older than 7 days, with no maintainer activity on the bug for 7
>> days and no indication that a fix is in progress.
>
> If you decide to NMU without delay a package maintained by me[0], please
> don't bother doing it, but orphan the package instead. I won't be
> interested in maintaining such a package anymore.
>
> [0] That is, with the Maintainer field set to me.

The conclusion in the bug was to do have a delay btw... so your comment
does not make sense to me.

Cheers

Luk


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Old 08-14-2011, 10:33 PM
Jakub Wilk
 
Default Release Update: Goals, Arches, Rolling, Removals

* Luk Claes <luk@debian.org>, 2011-08-13, 23:34:
As noted in our previous mail [0DAYDA], bug #625449 has been opened
against developers-reference. This now seems to be drawing itself to
a conclusion. We would still welcome use of delayed queues where
appropriate, but this also formalises the policy over the previous
few years which allows DELAYED/0 for uploads fixing only
release-critical bugs older than 7 days, with no maintainer activity
on the bug for 7 days and no indication that a fix is in progress.


If you decide to NMU without delay a package maintained by me[0],
please don't bother doing it, but orphan the package instead. I won't
be interested in maintaining such a package anymore.


[0] That is, with the Maintainer field set to me.


The conclusion in the bug was to do have a delay btw... so your comment
does not make sense to me.


Your comment doesn't make sense to me either. For the reference, this is
the change that has been made to Developer's Reference:


--- pkgs.dbk (revision 8901)
+++ pkgs.dbk (revision 8902)
@@ -1947,6 +1947,11 @@
<itemizedlist>
<listitem>
<para>
+Upload fixing only release-critical bugs older than 7 days, with no maintainer activity on the bug for 7 days and no indication that a fix is in progress: 0 days
+</para>
+</listitem>
+<listitem>
+<para>
Upload fixing only release-critical bugs older than 7 days: 2 days
</para>
</listitem>

Are you trying to say that delay of 0 days is something substantially
different than no delay? Or that the change is contrary to the bug
conclusions and was done by mistake?


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Old 08-16-2011, 01:25 PM
Josselin Mouette
 
Default Release Update: Goals, Arches, Rolling, Removals

Le samedi 13 août 2011 Ã* 21:59 +0200, Jakub Wilk a écrit :
> If you decide to NMU without delay a package maintained by me[0], please
> don't bother doing it, but orphan the package instead. I won't be
> interested in maintaining such a package anymore.

I don’t understand this kind of reaction against people who are enough
willing to help you to prepare an update for your package.

Ask yourself these questions instead: what kind of change would people
do in a NMU that you couldn’t revert in a blink if needed? And what is
the probability for a NMU to make things worse?

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