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Old 03-30-2011, 10:10 PM
Christoph Anton Mitterer
 
Default "expected stable-updates but got squeeze-updates"

On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 22:38 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 20:45 +0000, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
> > Using the following in sources.list:
> > deb ftp://security.debian.org/debian-security/ stable/updates main contrib
> > non-free
> > deb-src ftp://security.debian.org/debian-security/ stable/updates main
> > contrib non-free
>
> The above is not related to the warning below. Compare the server names
> and suite names between the two.
Why not? It's the place where I set the suite name?!


> It's not really either of those, but rather due to your sources.list
> containing an entry for debian-mirror.lrz.de for the "stable-updates"
> suite. However, the suite is actually called "squeeze-updates", and
> that's therefore what appears in the Release file. Changing
> sources.list to point at squeeze-updates instead should make the warning
> go away.
But then, why do we have those symlinks at all?
And it's quite handy IMHO that one can just use stable and get the
current stable suite.
The same should work for the volatile replacement.

Cheers,
Chris.
 
Old 03-30-2011, 10:24 PM
"Adam D. Barratt"
 
Default "expected stable-updates but got squeeze-updates"

On Thu, 2011-03-31 at 00:10 +0200, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 22:38 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
> > On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 20:45 +0000, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
> > > Using the following in sources.list:
> > > deb ftp://security.debian.org/debian-security/ stable/updates main contrib
> > > non-free
> > > deb-src ftp://security.debian.org/debian-security/ stable/updates main
> > > contrib non-free
> >
> > The above is not related to the warning below. Compare the server names
> > and suite names between the two.
> Why not? It's the place where I set the suite name?!

Because security.debian.org is not debian-mirror.lrz.de. The entries
above are for security.debian.org, whereas the error message you quoted
was for an entry containing debian-mirror.lrz.de; the entries for
security are not what's causing your error message.

> > It's not really either of those, but rather due to your sources.list
> > containing an entry for debian-mirror.lrz.de for the "stable-updates"
> > suite. However, the suite is actually called "squeeze-updates", and
> > that's therefore what appears in the Release file. Changing
> > sources.list to point at squeeze-updates instead should make the warning
> > go away.
> But then, why do we have those symlinks at all?
> And it's quite handy IMHO that one can just use stable and get the
> current stable suite.

It's also not universally agreed to be a good idea, as once a new stable
release occurs, your next "apt-get update" will suddenly pull in an
entirely new release's package lists, which isn't generally what you
want.

However, having "squeeze" in sources.list whilst the Release file
contains "stable" works okay, so I assume apt is managing the
translation internally in that case. If it doesn't do so when the
Release file contains a codename then this is likely to become a more
general problem in future, given that ftp-master would like to move the
archive to being codename-based internally.

Regards,

Adam


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Old 03-31-2011, 08:18 AM
David Kalnischkies
 
Default "expected stable-updates but got squeeze-updates"

On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 00:24, Adam D. Barratt <adam@adam-barratt.org.uk> wrote:
> However, having "squeeze" in sources.list whilst the Release file
> contains "stable" works okay, so I assume apt is managing the
> translation internally in that case.

Clarification: Thankfully it doesn't -- it would be another place to
keep up to date with respect to codenames of releases…
(we have it for the manpages, but these are at least not mission-critical)

Its simpler: The Release files tell us which Codename and Suite this
archive is for - if thats different from the one you mentioned in
sources.list you will get this "lovely" warning…


And yes, Christoph is right, something is wrong with stable-updates
as if we look at the current Release file of it [0] we can see that it says
[…]
Suite: squeeze-updates
Codename: squeeze-updates
[…]
change Suite to 'stable-updates' and it will work again for everyone who
has 'stable-updates' written in his sources.list.
User with sources.list entries mentioning 'squeeze-updates' doesn't
have a problem with it obviously…

The "normal" stable gets it right with 'stable' and 'squeeze'.

The mentioned debian-security btw, too, through you might notice that
it says 'stable' and 'squeeze' instead of 'stable/security' and alike,
but thats intended - otherwise APT would warn again…
(which kind of make sense, as security is already stable, while updates
want to become part of stable with the next point release -- at least as
far as i have understood it)


Best regards

David Kalnischkies

[0] http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stable-updates/Release


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Old 03-31-2011, 08:25 AM
Philipp Kern
 
Default "expected stable-updates but got squeeze-updates"

On 2011-03-30, Adam D. Barratt <adam@adam-barratt.org.uk> wrote:
> However, having "squeeze" in sources.list whilst the Release file
> contains "stable" works okay, so I assume apt is managing the
> translation internally in that case.

Nah, that's the bug we received and then assigned to ftp-master, which didn't fix it yet:

pkern@franck:~/ftp/ftp/dists$ egrep -i '(codename|suite)' squeeze{,-updates}/Release
squeeze/Release:Suite: stable
squeeze/Release:Codename: squeeze
squeeze-updates/Release:Suite: squeeze-updates
squeeze-updates/Release:Codename: squeeze-updates

Kind regards
Philipp Kern


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Old 03-31-2011, 12:50 PM
"Adam D. Barratt"
 
Default "expected stable-updates but got squeeze-updates"

On Thu, March 31, 2011 09:18, David Kalnischkies wrote:
> Its simpler: The Release files tell us which Codename and Suite this
> archive is for - if thats different from the one you mentioned in
> sources.list you will get this "lovely" warning?
>
>
> And yes, Christoph is right, something is wrong with stable-updates
> as if we look at the current Release file of it [0] we can see that it
> says
> [?]
> Suite: squeeze-updates
> Codename: squeeze-updates
> [?]
> change Suite to 'stable-updates' and it will work again for everyone who
> has 'stable-updates' written in his sources.list.

Actually, I suspect "codename" should be changed in this case - the suite
is called "squeeze-updates" in projectb, so that's correct.

I'm also not sure quite what's going to happen here once the rest of the
archive moves to becoming codename-based internally, which is on
ftp-master's to-do list.

> User with sources.list entries mentioning 'squeeze-updates' doesn't
> have a problem with it obviously?
>
> The "normal" stable gets it right with 'stable' and 'squeeze'.

Yep, I'd forgotten about the disparity there, and the fact that a bug
already exists - #614310.

Regards,

Adam


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Old 03-31-2011, 03:20 PM
Christoph Anton Mitterer
 
Default "expected stable-updates but got squeeze-updates"

On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 23:24:09 +0100, "Adam D. Barratt"
<adam@adam-barratt.org.uk> wrote:
> Because security.debian.org is not debian-mirror.lrz.de. The entries
> above are for security.debian.org, whereas the error message you quoted
> was for an entry containing debian-mirror.lrz.de; the entries for
> security are not what's causing your error message.
Oh,.. now I've seen your problem ...
Actually the sources.list is correct, I just copied the wrong lines here.
security comes from s.d.o, and the "normal" archive from lrz.de,... and
there I get the errors from.
So the problematic lines are actually these:
deb ftp://debian.mirror.lrz.de/debian/ stable-updates main contrib
non-free
deb-src ftp://debian.mirror.lrz.de/debian/ stable-updates main contrib
non-free

Sorry for the confusion.


> It's also not universally agreed to be a good idea, as once a new stable
> release occurs, your next "apt-get update" will suddenly pull in an
> entirely new release's package lists, which isn't generally what you
> want.
Well yes,... but that should be something the administrator can decide.


Cheers,
Chris.


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Old 04-01-2011, 11:12 AM
Mark Hymers
 
Default "expected stable-updates but got squeeze-updates"

On Thu, 31, Mar, 2011 at 08:25:38AM +0000, Philipp Kern spoke thus..
> On 2011-03-30, Adam D. Barratt <adam@adam-barratt.org.uk> wrote:
> > However, having "squeeze" in sources.list whilst the Release file
> > contains "stable" works okay, so I assume apt is managing the
> > translation internally in that case.
>
> Nah, that's the bug we received and then assigned to ftp-master, which didn't fix it yet:
>
> pkern@franck:~/ftp/ftp/dists$ egrep -i '(codename|suite)' squeeze{,-updates}/Release
> squeeze/Release:Suite: stable
> squeeze/Release:Codename: squeeze
> squeeze-updates/Release:Suite: squeeze-updates
> squeeze-updates/Release:Codename: squeeze-updates

I've put a temporary hack in place in generate-releases to fix this for
now until we change dak/projectb to use the codenames instead of suite
names for the main suites. Should be live as of the next dinstall.

I'm keeping the bug open for now until it's fixed properly.

Mark

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