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Old 03-23-2011, 02:01 PM
Lifeng Sun
 
Default Bug#619396: ITP: geant321 -- Particle detector description and simulation tool

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Lifeng Sun <lifongsun@gmail.com>

* Package name : geant321
Version : 3.21.14
Upstream Author : CERN - European Laboratory for Particle Physics
* URL : http://wwwasd.web.cern.ch/wwwasd/geant/index.html
* License : GPL-2+
Programming Lang: Fortran, C
Description : Particle detector description and simulation tool

GEANT is a framework for simulating the passage of subatomic particles
through matter, for instance, particle detectors. For maximum
flexibility, GEANT simulations are performed by linking FORTRAN code
supplied by the user with the GEANT library, then running the
resulting executable.



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Old 03-23-2011, 04:29 PM
Mika Pflüger
 
Default Bug#619396: ITP: geant321 -- Particle detector description and simulation tool

Hi,

Am Wed, 23 Mar 2011 23:01:28 +0800
schrieb Lifeng Sun <lifongsun@gmail.com>:
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
> Owner: Lifeng Sun <lifongsun@gmail.com>
>
> * Package name : geant321
> Version : 3.21.14
> Upstream Author : CERN - European Laboratory for Particle Physics
> * URL : http://wwwasd.web.cern.ch/wwwasd/geant/index.html
> * License : GPL-2+
> Programming Lang: Fortran, C
> Description : Particle detector description and simulation tool
>
> GEANT is a framework for simulating the passage of subatomic particles
> through matter, for instance, particle detectors. For maximum
> flexibility, GEANT simulations are performed by linking FORTRAN code
> supplied by the user with the GEANT library, then running the
> resulting executable.
>
Additionally to my concerns towards cernlib in general (see answer to
#619393), I think that GEANT is not free software. At
http://cernlib.web.cern.ch/cernlib/conditions.html
it says:
(C) Copyright CERN except where explicitly stated otherwise. Permission
to use and/or redistribute this work is granted under the terms of the
GNU General Public License. FLUKA routines included in GEANT3 are joint
copyright of INFN and CERN and are not licensed under the GPL:
permission to use and/or redistribute outside GEANT3 should be
negotiated. The software and documentation made available under the
terms of this license are provided with no warranty.

If necessary libraries for the use of GEANT are not licensed under the
GPL and are explicitly forbidden to redistribute and use outside of
GEANT ("should be negotiated" sounds like "is not allowed" in my ears)
this can only maybe pass into non-free, but I am not even sure
redistribution is allowed, the only license-related thing I could find
about fluka is in 2005/src/geant321/examples/gexam4/guphad.F:
(C) Copyright of the authors
[...]
* - All the rights concerning FLUKA or parts of it are only of the *
* authors and are independent from those of the GEANT code *

with no further permissions. Seems as if this is not redistributable.

Cheers,

Mika

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Old 03-24-2011, 02:07 AM
Lifeng Sun
 
Default Bug#619396: ITP: geant321 -- Particle detector description and simulation tool

Hi,

On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 6:29 PM, Mika Pflüger <debian@mikapflueger.de> wrote:
> Additionally to my concerns towards cernlib in general (see answer to
> #619393), I think that GEANT is not free software.

Thank you for figuring out the license issue, please see answer to
#619393.



Kind regards,
- Lifeng

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Old 03-25-2011, 03:57 PM
"Kevin B. McCarty"
 
Default Bug#619396: ITP: geant321 -- Particle detector description and simulation tool

Hi,

(sorry to break the thread, I'm not subscribed to debian-devel)

Original CERNLIB maintainer here, the debian/copyright files for the
original CERNLIB packages (for now, still available in oldstable) may
be useful to answer some of Mika's and others' questions regarding
licensing issues.

http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/c/cernlib/cernlib_2006.dfsg.2-13.2/cernlib.copyright
http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/p/paw/paw_2.14.04.dfsg.2-6/paw.copyright
http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/g/geant321/geant321_3.21.14.dfsg-8/geant321.copyright
http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/m/mclibs/mclibs_2006.dfsg.2-5/montecarlo-base.copyright

best regards,

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