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Old 03-23-2011, 01:42 PM
Lifeng Sun
 
Default Bug#619393: ITP: paw -- Physics Analysis Workstation

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Lifeng Sun <lifongsun@gmail.com>

* Package name : paw
Version : 2.14.04
Upstream Author : CERN - European Laboratory for Particle Physics
* URL : http://paw.web.cern.ch/paw/
* License : GPL-2+
Programming Lang: Fortran, C
Description : Physics Analysis Workstation

PAW is an interactive program providing interactive graphical
presentation and statistical and mathematical analysis tools. It is
designed to work on objects familiar to physicists such as histograms,
event files (Ntuples), vectors, etc.



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Old 03-23-2011, 04:11 PM
Mika Pflüger
 
Default Bug#619393: ITP: paw -- Physics Analysis Workstation

Hi,

Am Wed, 23 Mar 2011 22:42:44 +0800
schrieb Lifeng Sun <lifongsun@gmail.com>:
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
> Owner: Lifeng Sun <lifongsun@gmail.com>
>
> * Package name : paw
> Version : 2.14.04
> Upstream Author : CERN - European Laboratory for Particle Physics
> * URL : http://paw.web.cern.ch/paw/
> * License : GPL-2+
> Programming Lang: Fortran, C
> Description : Physics Analysis Workstation
>
> PAW is an interactive program providing interactive graphical
> presentation and statistical and mathematical analysis tools. It is
> designed to work on objects familiar to physicists such as histograms,
> event files (Ntuples), vectors, etc.

It seems that PAW is upstream dead (last activity on the website was in
2006, the last release of PAW was in 2002, the cernlib site states in
red: 'The development and support for CERNLIB has been discontinued.
Libraries will be continued to be provided "as is"'), additionally I
don't see it being GPL-2+ licensed, at least I couldn't find any file
stating this (I searched in the 2006 tarball obtained from
http://cernlib.web.cern.ch/cernlib/version.html, maybe there is another
version?). Additionally, in the tarball are quite a lot of files that
are definitively not GPL-2+, although they arguably don't belong to PAW.
An example would be the file
2006/src/packlib/fatmen/scripts/unix/ctab_root.dat
which contains:
# (C) COPYRIGHT International Business Machines Corp. 1989,1991
# All Rights Reserved
# Licensed Materials - Property of IBM
#
# US Government Users Restricted Rights - Use, duplication or
# disclosure restricted by GSA ADP Schedule Contract with IBM Corp.
with no further licenses. This doesn't sound like GPL-2+

Additionally, it seems to be utterly undocumented - I wanted to test if
PAWs is useful at all nowadays but couldn't figure out how to build it.

Maybe I missed the right tarball or am just to thick, but to me it
looks rather unclear if this software is worth the hassle.

Cheers,

Mika

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Old 03-23-2011, 04:16 PM
Mathieu Malaterre
 
Default Bug#619393: ITP: paw -- Physics Analysis Workstation

On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Mika Pflüger <debian@mikapflueger.de> wrote:
> It seems that PAW is upstream dead (last activity on the website was in

I believe there is a recent activity on debian-science to resurect that package:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-science/2011/03/msg00000.html

Lifeng are you part of this debian-science effort ?

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Old 03-24-2011, 01:57 AM
Lifeng Sun
 
Default Bug#619393: ITP: paw -- Physics Analysis Workstation

Hi,

On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Mika Pflüger <debian@mikapflueger.de> wrote:
> It seems that PAW is upstream dead (last activity on the website was in
> 2006, the last release of PAW was in 2002, the cernlib site states in
> red: 'The development and support for CERNLIB has been discontinued.
> Libraries will be continued to be provided "as is"'), additionally I
> don't see it being GPL-2+ licensed, at least I couldn't find any file
> stating this (I searched in the 2006 tarball obtained from
> http://cernlib.web.cern.ch/cernlib/version.html, maybe there is another
> version?). Additionally, in the tarball are quite a lot of files that
> are definitively not GPL-2+, although they arguably don't belong to PAW.
> An example would be the file
> 2006/src/packlib/fatmen/scripts/unix/ctab_root.dat
> which contains:
> # (C) COPYRIGHT International Business Machines Corp. 1989,1991
> # All Rights Reserved
> # Licensed Materials - Property of IBM
> #
> # US Government Users Restricted Rights - Use, duplication or
> # disclosure restricted by GSA ADP Schedule Contract with IBM Corp.
> with no further licenses. This doesn't sound like GPL-2+
>
> Additionally, it seems to be utterly undocumented - I wanted to test if
> PAWs is useful at all nowadays but couldn't figure out how to build it.
>
> Maybe I missed the right tarball or am just to thick, but to me it
> looks rather unclear if this software is worth the hassle.

These ITPs would be tagged ITA rather than ITP if the CERNLIB-related
packages were not removed from unstable about three weeks ago[1]. The
former maintainer, Kevin B. McCarty, has made them DFSG conformed and
I will follow his work. We are also planning to fork a free version
of CERNLIB. Thank you.

Mathieu, yes, I will set the Debian Science Team as co-maintainer.


[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-science/2011/03/msg00009.html



Kind regards,
- Lifeng

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Old 03-24-2011, 11:13 AM
Bastien ROUCARIES
 
Default Bug#619393: ITP: paw -- Physics Analysis Workstation

On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 3:57 AM, Lifeng Sun <lifongsun@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Mika Pflüger <debian@mikapflueger.de> wrote:
>> It seems that PAW is upstream dead (last activity on the website was in
>> 2006, the last release of PAW was in 2002, the cernlib site states in
>> red: 'The development and support for CERNLIB has been discontinued.
>> Libraries will be continued to be provided "as is"'), additionally I
>> don't see it being GPL-2+ licensed, at least I couldn't find any file
>> stating this (I searched in the 2006 tarball obtained from
>> http://cernlib.web.cern.ch/cernlib/version.html, maybe there is another
>> version?). Additionally, in the tarball are quite a lot of files that
>> are definitively not GPL-2+, although they arguably don't belong to PAW.
>> An example would be the file
>> 2006/src/packlib/fatmen/scripts/unix/ctab_root.dat
>> which contains:
>> # (C) COPYRIGHT International Business Machines Corp. 1989,1991
>> # All Rights Reserved
>> # Licensed Materials - Property of IBM
>> #
>> # US Government Users Restricted Rights - Use, duplication or
>> # disclosure restricted by GSA ADP Schedule Contract with IBM Corp.
>> with no further licenses. This doesn't sound like GPL-2+
>>
>> Additionally, it seems to be utterly undocumented - I wanted to test if
>> PAWs is useful at all nowadays but couldn't figure out how to build it.
>>
>> Maybe I missed the right tarball or am just to thick, but to me it
>> looks rather unclear if this software is worth the hassle.
>
> These ITPs would be tagged ITA rather than ITP if the CERNLIB-related
> packages were not removed from unstable about three weeks ago[1]. *The
> former maintainer, Kevin B. McCarty, has made them DFSG conformed and
> I will follow his work. *We are also planning to fork a free version
> of CERNLIB. Thank you.
>
> Mathieu, yes, I will set the Debian Science Team as co-maintainer.
>
>
> [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-science/2011/03/msg00009.html
>

I am trying to contact the cern for clarification about the licence
>
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