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Old 03-13-2011, 08:51 AM
Andrei Popescu
 
Default Bug#617999: Please include link to general info in each lists page

Package: lists.debian.org
Severity: wishlist
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org

On Sb, 12 mar 11, 12:57:29, Carsten Hey wrote:
> * Carsten Hey [2011-03-12 10:50 +0100]:
> > There are examples where we lost potential future maintainers because
> > they never received a reply to an RFS. These replies were sent to the
> > list, but they were not sent to those requesting sponsorship.
>
> To clarify this: the problem was not that Mail-Followup-To: has been
> ignored, but the partly insane code of conduct. How should new people
> know that they don't get a copy of replies to their messages unless they
> explicitly request one?

Dear listmasters,

From my experience lurking on Debian lists it is quite common to point
people to a particular list by the list info URL[1]. Unfortunately,
while that page mentions that posting is open (with the few notable
exceptions) it has no hint on how one can participate without
subscribing and there's also no direct path to such info or the CoC.

May I suggest including a link to the general information about Debian
mailing lists[2], which nicely includes de CoC, with suggestions to ask
for CCs if not subscribed, the Disclaimer, and other useful info.

[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/
[2] http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/

Thanks for reading,
Andrei
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Old 03-17-2011, 08:32 PM
Michelle Konzack
 
Default Bug#617999: Please include link to general info in each lists page

Hello Andrei Popescu and Listmasters,

it would be nice, if <lists.debian.org> could implement an autoresponder
for peoles sending messages to lists without being subscribed.

This message should only send one time per year and contain usefull
links based on the mailinglist, the FAQ and the CoC.

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening
Michelle Konzack

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Old 03-17-2011, 09:15 PM
Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
 
Default Bug#617999: Please include link to general info in each lists page

On Thursday 17 March 2011 18:32:43 Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Hello Andrei Popescu and Listmasters,
>
> it would be nice, if <lists.debian.org> could implement an autoresponder
> for peoles sending messages to lists without being subscribed.
>
> This message should only send one time per year and contain usefull
> links based on the mailinglist, the FAQ and the CoC.
>
> Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening
> Michelle Konzack

Just as a bit of extra information, we have done this (although manually) in a
couple of very used lists with nice success (people getting subscribed and
sometimes becoming real active).

Of course, not everyone will do it, but I think it has helped a lot.

Kinds regards, Lisandro.

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Old 03-17-2011, 10:02 PM
Michelle Konzack
 
Default Bug#617999: Please include link to general info in each lists page

Am 2011-03-17 19:15:45, schrieb Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer:
> Just as a bit of extra information, we have done this (although manually) in a
> couple of very used lists with nice success (people getting subscribed and
> sometimes becoming real active).
>
> Of course, not everyone will do it, but I think it has helped a lot.

But I do not mean Auto-Subscribe.

I do not like to become auto-subscribed with my Business-E-Mail which
send all messages (only Debian would send 1000 messages to my smartphone
per day) to my Smart-Phone.

> Kinds regards, Lisandro.

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening
Michelle Konzack

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Old 03-17-2011, 10:27 PM
Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
 
Default Bug#617999: Please include link to general info in each lists page

On Thursday 17 March 2011 20:02:31 Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Am 2011-03-17 19:15:45, schrieb Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer:
> > Just as a bit of extra information, we have done this (although manually)
> > in a couple of very used lists with nice success (people getting
> > subscribed and sometimes becoming real active).
> >
> > Of course, not everyone will do it, but I think it has helped a lot.
>
> But I do not mean Auto-Subscribe.

Neither me, sorry for not being clear. I meant that people tend to subscribe
on recibing such mails.

Kinds regards, Lisandro.

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Old 03-17-2011, 10:39 PM
Michelle Konzack
 
Default Bug#617999: Please include link to general info in each lists page

Hello Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer,

Am 2011-03-17 20:27:57, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:
> On Thursday 17 March 2011 20:02:31 Michelle Konzack wrote:
> > But I do not mean Auto-Subscribe.
> Neither me, sorry for not being clear. I meant that people tend to subscribe
> on recibing such mails.

OK ;-)

> Kinds regards, Lisandro.

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening
Michelle Konzack

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Old 03-18-2011, 05:10 AM
Alexander Wirt
 
Default Bug#617999: Please include link to general info in each lists page

Michelle Konzack schrieb am Thursday, den 17. March 2011:

> Hello Andrei Popescu and Listmasters,
>
> it would be nice, if <lists.debian.org> could implement an autoresponder
> for peoles sending messages to lists without being subscribed.
Eh no. Autoresponder are a plague.

Alex


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Old 03-18-2011, 01:04 PM
Michelle Konzack
 
Default Bug#617999: Please include link to general info in each lists page

Hello Alexander Wirt,

Am 2011-03-18 07:10:41, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:
> Michelle Konzack schrieb am Thursday, den 17. March 2011:
> > Hello Andrei Popescu and Listmasters,
> > it would be nice, if <lists.debian.org> could implement an autoresponder
> > for peoles sending messages to lists without being subscribed.
> Eh no. Autoresponder are a plague.

I mean this ONLY as a ONE-TIME autoresponder for peoples posting to a
list the first time without being subscribed because most of the Posters
give a F..K on the FAQ and CoC.

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening
Michelle Konzack

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