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Old 02-07-2008, 04:48 AM
Christian Perrier
 
Default Bug#464392: ITP: libdebian-package-make-perl -- Perl extension for autobuilding Debian packages

Quoting Hilko Bengen (bengen@debian.org):
> Package: wnpp
> Owner: Hilko Bengen <bengen@debian.org>
> Severity: wishlist
>
> * Package name : libdebian-package-make-perl
> Version : 0.01
> Upstream Author : myself
> * URL or Web page : not published yet
> * License : GPL2+
> Description : Perl extension for autobuilding Debian packages

I suggest "s/Debian/.deb"

That would prevent derivative distributions to embark something that
is less meaningful for them.


>
> Debian::Package::Make is a module that aims to simplify the necessary
> steps for completely automated builds of Debian packages and to

Same proposed change here.

> provide a sound base for make-*-package scripts.
>
> This is useful for source distributions where contents change rapidly
> or where peculiar licenses prohibit redistribution via public package
> repositories.
 
Old 02-07-2008, 04:11 PM
Christian Perrier
 
Default Bug#464392: ITP: libdebian-package-make-perl -- Perl extension for autobuilding Debian packages

Quoting Hilko Bengen (bengen@debian.org):

> I just had a look at what the other kids are doing:
>
> dpkg: package maintenance system for Debian
> dpkg-dev: package building tools for Debian
> apt: Advanced front-end for dpkg
> This is Debian's next generation front-end for the dpkg package
> manager. [...]
> devscripts: scripts to make the life of a Debian Package maintainer
> easier
> dh-make: tool that converts source archives into Debian package source
> dh-make-perl: Create Debian packages from perl modules

Well, them doing this does not necessarily mean they are right.

Actually, most descriptions of these longstanding tools would really
deserve some review and I would actually propose the same unbranding
in many parts of them.

>
>
> I'd rather leave that as it is. The package won't be as useful for the
> less free operating systems based on Debian anyhow.


derivatives distros*!= Ubuntu if this is what you mean by this
comment

There are other players in the game which are as free as Debian is.
Why imply that something that's based on Debian is less free than Debian?

I consider that doing our best to make the work of CDD easier is part
of our commitment.....which may include using as less "branding" as we
can.
 
Old 02-07-2008, 06:58 PM
Steve Langasek
 
Default Bug#464392: ITP: libdebian-package-make-perl -- Perl extension for autobuilding Debian packages

On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 06:11:38PM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote:
> > dpkg: package maintenance system for Debian
> > dpkg-dev: package building tools for Debian
> > apt: Advanced front-end for dpkg
> > This is Debian's next generation front-end for the dpkg package
> > manager. [...]
> > devscripts: scripts to make the life of a Debian Package maintainer
> > easier
> > dh-make: tool that converts source archives into Debian package source
> > dh-make-perl: Create Debian packages from perl modules

> Well, them doing this does not necessarily mean they are right.

.debs are commonly referred to as "Debian packages" or "the Debian package
format". If that's to be deprecated, it should be done by consensus, not by
one-off critiquing of package descriptions.

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Old 02-08-2008, 05:23 AM
Christian Perrier
 
Default Bug#464392: ITP: libdebian-package-make-perl -- Perl extension for autobuilding Debian packages

Quoting Steve Langasek (vorlon@debian.org):

> > > dh-make: tool that converts source archives into Debian package source
> > > dh-make-perl: Create Debian packages from perl modules
>
> > Well, them doing this does not necessarily mean they are right.
>
> .debs are commonly referred to as "Debian packages" or "the Debian package
> format". If that's to be deprecated, it should be done by consensus, not by
> one-off critiquing of package descriptions.


Of course. That's the point of this discussion, indeed.
 

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