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Old 02-11-2011, 09:56 AM
Luca Capello
 
Default Make Unicode bugs release critical?

Hi there!

On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 11:14:42 +0100, Miroslav Kure wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 09:37:54AM +0000, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
>>
>> However, I'm curious: is there a lot of software that is broken with
>> Unicode, particularly with the UTF-8 encoding? I can't remember anything
>> much in recent times.
>
> Mostly it is just the old stuff like
> - eterm, aterm
> - elvis
> - X tools from the basic package (xman, xmessage, xmore, ...)
> - TeX without additional packages

Plus a2ps (see #180236), something a lot of people use before KSPs, even
if there are various alternatives, some of them already in Debian:

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Everything should be at <http://wiki.debian.org/UTF8BrokenApps>.

Thx, bye,
Gismo / Luca
 
Old 02-11-2011, 10:02 AM
Roger Leigh
 
Default Make Unicode bugs release critical?

On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:14:42AM +0100, Miroslav Kure wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 09:37:54AM +0000, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> >
> > However, I'm curious: is there a lot of software that is broken with
> > Unicode, particularly with the UTF-8 encoding? I can't remember anything
> > much in recent times.
>
> Mostly it is just the old stuff like
> - eterm, aterm
> - elvis
> - X tools from the basic package (xman, xmessage, xmore, ...)
> - TeX without additional packages

XeTeX and XeLaTeX allow native UTF-8 input. Should be made the
default, IMO, given how obsolete and broken the "standard" TeX
encodings are. Being able to write in actual text rather than
a lot of illegible incantations was a major revelation, and it's
a bit sad it was in that situation in the first place. It also
sorts out the awful font support, so you can use standard
freetype-registered fonts, again without the pain. Result: a
document you can actually read in the editor!

IMO all those broken terminal emulators, editors and tools should
be put in the bin. There are plenty of non-broken replacements, so
why keep them around to bitrot even further? It's not like it's
going to cause massive inconvenience--they are long obsolete.


Regards,
Roger

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