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Old 11-24-2007, 09:52 PM
Frans Pop
 
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Ron Johnson wrote:
> But isn't ftp.debian.org the Prime Mirror?

No, it isn't. It's _a_ primary mirror, but the "prime" mirror is
ftp-master.debian.org.


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Old 11-25-2007, 01:10 AM
Roberto C. Sánchez
 
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On Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 03:35:50PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 11/24/07 08:21, Frank Lichtenheld wrote:
> > On Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 08:23:56AM +0000, Neil Williams wrote:
> >> rmadison can take longer than the others to update but I've always found
> >> that DDPO is normally updated before the PTS and ftp.debian.org updated
> >> before the other mirrors.
> >
> > In my experience (which might or might not be accurate) ftp.debian.org is
> > one of the least reliable .debian.org Debian mirrors, it being out-of-date wouldn't
> > really be a surprise to me.
>
> But isn't ftp.debian.org the Prime Mirror?
>
No. You are thinking of ftp-master.debian.org.

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Old 11-25-2007, 07:29 AM
Andrei Popescu
 
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On Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 11:52:32PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
> > But isn't ftp.debian.org the Prime Mirror?
>
> No, it isn't. It's _a_ primary mirror [...]

Are you sure? It's not even listed in the mirrors list [1].

[1] http://www.debian.org/mirror/list

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Old 11-25-2007, 06:21 PM
"brian m. carlson"
 
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On Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 10:29:56AM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:

On Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 11:52:32PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:
> But isn't ftp.debian.org the Prime Mirror?

No, it isn't. It's _a_ primary mirror [...]


Are you sure? It's not even listed in the mirrors list [1].


Technically, it's not a mirror, for two reasons: it doesn't have a
public copy of the archive, and it's the master, so it can't be a mirror
(of the master). So that's why it's not listed on the mirrors list.
The reasons for this have been discussed to death, and I'm sure you can
find them in the archive somewhere.


Updates of the archive are done by push mirroring to certain primary
mirrors, and then secondary and leaf mirrors pick up from those
primaries. The mirror list (or one of them, at least) has a list of
those mirrors which are primary.


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Old 11-25-2007, 07:10 PM
Steve Langasek
 
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On Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 07:21:23PM +0000, brian m. carlson wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 10:29:56AM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> >On Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 11:52:32PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
> >>Ron Johnson wrote:
> >>> But isn't ftp.debian.org the Prime Mirror?

> >>No, it isn't. It's _a_ primary mirror [...]

> >Are you sure? It's not even listed in the mirrors list [1].

> Technically, it's not a mirror, for two reasons: it doesn't have a
> public copy of the archive, and it's the master, so it can't be a mirror
> (of the master). So that's why it's not listed on the mirrors list.
> The reasons for this have been discussed to death, and I'm sure you can
> find them in the archive somewhere.

You seem to be describing ftp-master, not ftp.debian.org. "ftp.debian.org"
exists expressly to be a public mirror.

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Old 11-25-2007, 07:26 PM
"brian m. carlson"
 
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On Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 12:10:43PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:


You seem to be describing ftp-master, not ftp.debian.org. "ftp.debian.org"
exists expressly to be a public mirror.


Yes, sorry. I apparently misread the context.

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