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Old 04-07-2010, 01:01 PM
Al Nikolov
 
Default Bug#576817: ITP: drupal6-l10n-ru -- Russian translation for Drupal 6

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Al Nikolov <clown@debian.org>


* Package name : drupal6-l10n-ru
Version : 1.3
Upstream Author : Drupal Russian Language Team
* URL : http://drupal.org/project/translations
* License : GPL
Description : Russian translation for Drupal 6

Drupal uses English by default, but may be translated to many other
languages.

This is Russian translation.



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Old 04-07-2010, 02:03 PM
Cyril Brulebois
 
Default Bug#576817: ITP: drupal6-l10n-ru -- Russian translation for Drupal 6

Al Nikolov <clown@debian.org> (07/04/2010):
> * Package name : drupal6-l10n-ru
> Drupal uses English by default, but may be translated to many other
> languages.
>
> This is Russian translation.

Can't it just be merged into the drupal package?

Mraw,
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Old 04-07-2010, 02:10 PM
Al Nikolov
 
Default Bug#576817: ITP: drupal6-l10n-ru -- Russian translation for Drupal 6

On Wednesday 07 April 2010 18:03:06 Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> Can't it just be merged into the drupal package?

Let's see the drupal6 mainainer's opinion.


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Old 04-07-2010, 03:38 PM
Luigi Gangitano
 
Default Bug#576817: ITP: drupal6-l10n-ru -- Russian translation for Drupal 6

Il giorno 07/apr/2010, alle ore 16.10, Al Nikolov ha scritto:
> On Wednesday 07 April 2010 18:03:06 Cyril Brulebois wrote:
>> Can't it just be merged into the drupal package?
>
> Let's see the drupal6 mainainer's opinion.

Since drupal6 translation need to be manually loaded in the database via a web interface once the db is configured and populated by the installation script (another web script), I don't see the benefit to package them in any way, neither in the drupal6 package, nor in a separate package.

Browser used for administration will probably be running on another machine 99.99% of times. You're not installing X on your web-server, are you? :-)

Yes, I know about lynx. :-)

Regards,

L

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Old 04-07-2010, 04:02 PM
Al Nikolov
 
Default Bug#576817: ITP: drupal6-l10n-ru -- Russian translation for Drupal 6

On Wednesday 07 April 2010 19:38:37 Luigi Gangitano wrote:
> Since drupal6 translation need to be manually loaded in the database via a
> web interface once the db is configured and populated by the installation
> script (another web script), I don't see the benefit to package them in any
> way, neither in the drupal6 package, nor in a separate package.

I see the benefit of such kind of bootstrapping package since this process:

- installing the package
- adding the language
- removing the package (optional)

is obviously simpler and cleaner than this:

- manually unpacking the tarball
- adding the language
- removing isn't possible

and definitely simpler than manually adding a lot of .po via WUI.

That's why packages have been invented for, haven't they?


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Old 04-08-2010, 07:29 AM
Josselin Mouette
 
Default Bug#576817: ITP: drupal6-l10n-ru -- Russian translation for Drupal 6

Le jeudi 08 avril 2010 * 10:14 +0800, Paul Wise a écrit :
> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Luigi Gangitano <luigi@debian.org> wrote:
>
> > Since drupal6 translation need to be manually loaded in the database via a web interface once the db is configured and populated by the installation script (another web script)
>
> Wow. Just wow. WTF.

Sounds pretty much standard for a PHP webapp.

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Old 04-23-2010, 04:32 PM
Luigi Gangitano
 
Default Bug#576817: ITP: drupal6-l10n-ru -- Russian translation for Drupal 6

Hi Al,
sorry for the late answer. :-(

Il giorno 07/apr/2010, alle ore 18.02, Al Nikolov ha scritto:

> On Wednesday 07 April 2010 19:38:37 Luigi Gangitano wrote:
>> Since drupal6 translation need to be manually loaded in the database via a
>> web interface once the db is configured and populated by the installation
>> script (another web script), I don't see the benefit to package them in any
>> way, neither in the drupal6 package, nor in a separate package.
>
> I see the benefit of such kind of bootstrapping package since this process:
>
> - installing the package
> - adding the language
> - removing the package (optional)

Can you please explain to me how you're doing this language installation directly on the webserver, without using the WUI? Or is the user supposed to fire up a browser on the server and do the install manually?

This is my only point: since the data need to be installed using a browser, should the admin install the package on his client machine or on the (probably headless and X-deprived) webserver?

Regards,

L

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Old 04-23-2010, 05:28 PM
Al Nikolov
 
Default Bug#576817: ITP: drupal6-l10n-ru -- Russian translation for Drupal 6

On Friday 23 April 2010 20:32:06 Luigi Gangitano wrote:
> Can you please explain to me how you're doing this language installation
> directly on the webserver, without using the WUI? Or is the user supposed
> to fire up a browser on the server and do the install manually?

If such a package is installed on the server, then every Drupal instance would
be able to automatically import available translated strings during further
language adding (first-time enabling) trough WUI.

> This is my only point: since the data need to be installed using a browser,
> should the admin install the package on his client machine or on the
> (probably headless and X-deprived) webserver?

No, see above.


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Old 05-10-2010, 07:35 PM
Luigi Gangitano
 
Default Bug#576817: ITP: drupal6-l10n-ru -- Russian translation for Drupal 6

Hi Al,
I'm sorry for opposing your proposal before. I didn't check the automatic .po installation feature of drupal 6.x (as long as a .po is in /etc/drupal/6/profiles/default/translations it will be loaded by all sites).

I'd like to make available a separate package for each translation, so admins can choose the ones they need, and would like each package to install it's .po in the path above, so that it's installed automatically.

Regards,

L

Il giorno 23/apr/2010, alle ore 19.28, Al Nikolov ha scritto:

> On Friday 23 April 2010 20:32:06 Luigi Gangitano wrote:
>> Can you please explain to me how you're doing this language installation
>> directly on the webserver, without using the WUI? Or is the user supposed
>> to fire up a browser on the server and do the install manually?
>
> If such a package is installed on the server, then every Drupal instance would
> be able to automatically import available translated strings during further
> language adding (first-time enabling) trough WUI.
>
>> This is my only point: since the data need to be installed using a browser,
>> should the admin install the package on his client machine or on the
>> (probably headless and X-deprived) webserver?
>
> No, see above.

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