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Old 01-23-2010, 03:10 AM
Charles Plessy
 
Default Bug#566220: What criteria does ftpmaster use for the ‘copyright’ file of a package?

Le Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 07:11:23PM -0800, Russ Allbery a écrit :

> The current practice is that verbatim is not a clearly defined term and
> people are using a common-sense, and imprecise, definition.

Then let's face the complex reality and document what you described in the
Policy. What is sure is that the practice does not enforce “verbatim”
stricto-sensu. We could write ‘copyright notices must be reproduced in
debian/copyright; they can be agregated to a degree that is left to the
appreciation of the archive administrators’.

Anyway, I think that I have taken my decision and will propose a GR later. We
wasted already too much time on this issue. Not everybody has the same common
sense, so we need clear guidelines.

Have a nice day,

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Charles Plessy
Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan


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Old 01-23-2010, 03:38 AM
Steve Langasek
 
Default Bug#566220: What criteria does ftpmaster use for the ‘copyright’ file of a package?

On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 01:10:23PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> Le Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 07:11:23PM -0800, Russ Allbery a écrit :

> > The current practice is that verbatim is not a clearly defined term and
> > people are using a common-sense, and imprecise, definition.

> Then let's face the complex reality and document what you described in the
> Policy. What is sure is that the practice does not enforce “verbatim”
> stricto-sensu. We could write ‘copyright notices must be reproduced in
> debian/copyright; they can be agregated to a degree that is left to the
> appreciation of the archive administrators’.

The patch that has been submitted to Policy is to eliminate a single
ambiguity in the wording that permits a particular twisted interpretation of
the phrase "verbatim copy of its copyright and distribution license" which
is historically incorrect. I believe this is orthogonal to any question of
what the policy *should* be, or whether the enforcement of this rule has
been strict and consistent.

Do you disagree with my assertion that this is what the current Policy text
*means* (has always meant)?

> Anyway, I think that I have taken my decision and will propose a GR later. We
> wasted already too much time on this issue. Not everybody has the same common
> sense, so we need clear guidelines.

Why do you think this should be clarified by a GR, rather than through the
Policy process? Except where it intersects with the legal requirements of
licenses, the contents of debian/copyright are, AFAICS, a technical policy
that don't require ratification by the project.

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Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world.
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