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Old 12-10-2009, 07:04 AM
Dmitrijs Ledkovs
 
Default DEP5: Change of status to "Candidate"

Dear all

DEP5 is quite stable now (no updates for a while).

Implementation format exists and is being used by quite a few packages now.

Shall DEP-5 be changed to "Candidate" status? Do we have rough consensus?

I believe changing status to Candidate will drive further adoption &
testing as well as helper tool development.

Quote from DEP0:

### DRAFT state: discussion

* every new proposal starts as a DRAFT
* anyone can propose a draft
* each draft has a number (next free one from document index)
* normal discussion and changes to the text happen in this state
* drafts should include *extra* criteria for success (in addition to
having obtained consensus, see below), that is, requirements to
finally become ACCEPTED

#### DRAFT -> CANDIDATE: rough consensus

In order for a DEP to become CANDIDATE, the following condition should
be met:

* consensus exists for *what* should be done, and *how* it should be
done (agreement needs to be expressed by all affected parties, not
just the drivers; silence is not agreement, but unanimity is not
required, either)

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Old 12-10-2009, 08:04 AM
Steve Langasek
 
Default DEP5: Change of status to "Candidate"

On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 08:04:33AM +0000, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:

> DEP5 is quite stable now (no updates for a while).

No, it is not. It is stagnant, not stable.

I don't believe there's any consensus about it; there have been list
discussions in the past with major objections to its current content that
are so far unaddressed, and the current content is, furthermore, the outcome
of a long series of non-consensual edits. I as the DEP driver don't stand
behind it at all as a standard in its current form.

This is my fault as the DEP driver (both for letting the non-consensual
editing take place and for not guiding the discussion better), but it does
mean that I'm not about to mark the current document as a candidate.

I hope to make some progress on remedying this starting next week.

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