On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:59:27AM +0000, Enrico Zini wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 09:07:35PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> > We plan on changing the current sections in the archive. With the rapid
> > growth of archive, many of them have become too big to be useful anymore.
> I propose 'oldlibs' to be renamed to 'deprecated'.
> That would also fit, for example, packages abandoned upstream, or
> packages that have a better alternative, but that still have users.
> It will also provide a path for planning removals of packages from the
> archive, when the maintainer is still ok with maintaining a package and
> fixing its bugs, but in his/her long term plan the package should
> eventually go away.
There are tools that understand the special meaning of the 'oldlibs' section
and treat it specially; at least deborphan comes to mind, there may be
others. I don't see the necessity for such a section rename, but if it
happens I think it needs to be announced in advance and coordinated.
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Or, if it’s too long:
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Hmm, what about other CLI implementations - DotGNU for instance?
ecma-cli -- development tools and libraries for ECMA-335, the Common
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02-28-2009, 07:19 AM
Stefano Zacchiroli
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On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 09:31:25PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> >> Get me a short description for it.
> > "Compiler, libraries, and tools for OCaml: a static typed ML language
> > implementation supporting functional, imperative, and object-oriented
> > programming styles".
> You have an interesting definition of short, i stopped after : for
> now.
Eh :-)
> (Its a different thing what packages.d.o will show later, for example,
> but for me the part before the : is more than enough)
FWIW, my source of inspiration was this page
http://packages.debian.org/stable/, where something of the length I
gave you I think can be useful for users, but I'm fine with the
uber-short version too.
Thanks!
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02-28-2009, 11:03 AM
Enrico Zini
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On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:03:55PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> There are tools that understand the special meaning of the 'oldlibs' section
> and treat it specially; at least deborphan comes to mind, there may be
> others. I don't see the necessity for such a section rename, but if it
> happens I think it needs to be announced in advance and coordinated.
Indeed. It shouldn't be anything harder than adding 'deprecated'
(non-library, deprecated software) to complement oldlibs, ask tools to
treat them equally, and when we're satisfied that they do, just get rid
of oldlibs.
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:59:27AM +0000, Enrico Zini wrote:
> I propose 'oldlibs' to be renamed to 'deprecated'.
>
> That would also fit, for example, packages abandoned upstream, or
> packages that have a better alternative, but that still have users.
I would expect to have so called transitional or dummy packages which
pull in renamed packages or packages which have been replaced, in such
a section, too.
Regards, Axel
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03-02-2009, 11:00 PM
Samuel Thibault
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Hello,
Joerg Jaspert, le Fri 27 Feb 2009 09:02:11 +0100, a écrit :
> > Maybe it could be interesting to open an accessibility section?
>
> Maybe, maybe not. What packages would you put into it?
I probably forget a lot more, it's hard to track them as there is no
naming scheme at all.
Plus a few packages which I intend to package sooner or later (~20 bin
packages):
mousetrap
mbrola*
cicero
trf
liblouis-bin
liblouisxml-bin
xml2brl
Samuel
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03-09-2009, 04:52 AM
Gunnar Wolf
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Hi,
Joerg Jaspert dijo [Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 09:07:35PM +0100]:
> As Lenny is finally released, and we are early in the cycle for squeeze,
> now is the best time to do some long-needed changes to our archive.
> Much of what we are currently doing is not visible to you as a user of
> this archive, but the action we talk about now is:
>
> We plan on changing the current sections in the archive. With the rapid
> growth of archive, many of them have become too big to be useful anymore.
> (...)
> httpd
> (...)
> cherokee*
> libcherokee*
Ok. Lintian does not yet like httpd as a section, but I guess you will
not reject an upload just because I listened to you ;-)
However, cherokee does include some -dev packages, which Lintian (IMHO
correctly) marks as they should belong to libdevel (where they are
now). Please confirm whether I should disregard this and put
libcherokee*-dev also in httpd (or am I being too literal in my
reading).
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