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Old 02-26-2009, 09:48 PM
Joerg Jaspert
 
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> Not like it is *that* important, but we now have more than 100
> OCaml-related source packages in the archive, most of which are
> libraries for OCaml development.

> I don't if that warrants an "ocaml" section, which is your call, but
> if it does, well, ... heads up :-)

Get me a short description for it.

> The regex over binary package names would be "lib.*-ocaml.*",
> currently matching 160 binary packages in the APT database on my
> laptop (unstable + experimental).

ocaml
ocaml-*
lib*ocaml*

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* maxx hat weasel seine erste packung suse gebracht, der hat mich dafür
später zu debian gebracht
<weasel> .oO( und jetzt ist der DD. jeder macht mal fehler.. )
<maxx> du hast 2 gemacht.... du warst auch noch advocate :P
 
Old 02-26-2009, 09:57 PM
Samuel Thibault
 
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Joerg Jaspert, le Thu 26 Feb 2009 21:07:35 +0100, a écrit :
> We plan on changing the current sections in the archive. With the rapid
> growth of archive, many of them have become too big to be useful anymore.
>
>[...]
>
> The new sections are:
>
> ruby Everything about ruby, an interpreted object oriented
> language.
> java Everything about Java
> video Video viewers, editors, recording, streaming
> fonts Font packages
> gnustep The Gnustep environment
> xfce The XFCE Desktop, fast and lightweight Desktop
> Environment.
> httpd Webservers and their modules
> localisations Language packs
> debug Debug packages
> lisp Everything about Lisp
> vcs Version control systems
> haskell Everything about haskell
> zope Zope/Plone Framework
> database Databases
> kernel Kernel and Kernel modules

Maybe it could be interesting to open an accessibility section?

Samuel


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Old 02-26-2009, 09:59 PM
Joerg Jaspert
 
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On 11673 March 1977, Adeodato Simó wrote:
> * Joerg Jaspert [Thu, 26 Feb 2009 21:07:35 +0100]:
>
>> database
>> libmysql*
>> libdb4*
> I'm not sure these (and possibly *some* of the other lib* packages
> included in the listing) should be moved out of Section: libs. I can see
> how having a database section to browse can be useful, but I don't think
> support libraries have a place there, since they're something that's
> going to be installed because of dependencies, and not intentionally.

> Thoughts?

Hrmyes. This is a preliminary list of matches only anyway, not the final
holy grail, so we will adjust it wherever neccessary before finally
doing the work.

For libmysql* and libdb4* I agree insofar as that are really packages no
user (usually) installs by hand, but gets pulled in as a
dependency. Removed from list.

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Old 02-26-2009, 10:05 PM
Joerg Jaspert
 
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On 11673 March 1977, Frans Pop wrote:

>> localisations Language packs
> I'd prefer "localization".

> - We use en_US in general -> "ize"

Well, I dont really care. Fine, adjusted.

> - Having the section name plural seems inconsistent with other
> sections.

Dito.

>> video
> [...]
>> dvd*
> I wonder if packages like dvd+rw-tools*, dvdisaster or dvdrtools really
> belong in this category. Not all that's DVD is video related.
> For example, dvd+rw-tools contains growisofs, which is used to create
> Debian CDs...

Yeah. This will need close(r) inspection when moving packages.

>> httpd
> Add boa.

Done

>> vcs
> What about packages like libcvs-perl or libgit-ruby? Do they stay with the
> language or move to this new category?

Language.

I intended to add some "section order" to the mail too, but then dropped
this for now. But will come back with that. Basically meaning that, if
your package would fit multiple sections, the higher one would
win. Something like "[language specific section] >> interpreters" and
similar.

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Old 02-26-2009, 10:06 PM
Joerg Jaspert
 
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>> database Databases
> [...]
>> database
>> postgresql*
>> pg*
>> sqlite*
>> mysql*
>> libmysql*
>> db4.*
>> libdb4*
>> firebird*
>> sql-*
>> qdbm*
> I think this needs a bit detailed specification. Is this going to be
> for servers or also libraries? In latter case definitely something is
> missing, eg. libdbi.*, libgdbm.*.

Currently its mainly servers and modules/"plugins" for them.

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Old 02-26-2009, 10:08 PM
Joerg Jaspert
 
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>> lisp Everything about Lisp
> Is this just about Common Lisp, or other Lisp dialects as well? I'm
> mainly referring to Scheme here, as it is another Lisp dialect in
> (relatively) widespread use (the third one being Emacs-Lisp).

Its lisp. Not one special part of it, just lisp. So other dialects as
well, if someone gets me a list of packages (or matches) for it.

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Old 02-26-2009, 10:30 PM
Stefano Zacchiroli
 
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On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:48:18PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> > I don't if that warrants an "ocaml" section, which is your call, but
> > if it does, well, ... heads up :-)
>
> Get me a short description for it.

"Compiler, libraries, and tools for OCaml: a static typed ML language
implementation supporting functional, imperative, and object-oriented
programming styles".

> > The regex over binary package names would be "lib.*-ocaml.*",
> > currently matching 160 binary packages in the APT database on my
> > laptop (unstable + experimental).
>
> ocaml
> ocaml-*
> lib*ocaml*

Yup, of course I forgot the first pattern in the former post.
Actually, you can add also "*-ocaml" which would match also
"dh-ocaml", our debhelper-like tools for OCaml-related packages.

Cheers.

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Old 02-26-2009, 10:50 PM
Josselin Mouette
 
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Le jeudi 26 février 2009 à 21:07 +0100, Joerg Jaspert a écrit :
> ruby Everything about ruby, an interpreted object oriented
> language.
> java Everything about Java

How about a "cli" section about everything related to Mono and the
Common Language Infrastructure (aka .NET) ? That makes quite a number of
packages now.

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Old 02-26-2009, 10:58 PM
Edward Betts
 
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How about:

webfeed - RSS/Atom feed readers, aggregator and utilities

akregator
blam
canto
cl-rss
claws-mail-feeds-reader
dcoprss
evolution-rss
feed2imap
firefox-sagefirefox-sage
kitty
liferea*
magpierss
miro*
newsbeuter
nrss
olive
php-xml-rss
planet
python-feedparser
python-feedvalidator
python-pyrss2gen
rawdog
rss2email
rsskit.framework
rssreader.app
rsstail
snownews
yarssr
yocto-reader

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Old 02-26-2009, 11:08 PM
Luciano Bello
 
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El Jue 26 Feb 2009, Joerg Jaspert escribió:
> ruby * * * * * * * * * * Everything about ruby, an interpreted object oriented
> * * * * * * * * * * * * *language.
> java * * * * * * * * * * Everything about Java

Have sense to inaugurate a section with all the R modules? Nowadays many of them are in "math".

$ apt-cache search r- | grep "^r-" | wc - l
133

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