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José Manuel Santamaría Lema 02-17-2009 10:48 PM

Bug#515850: RFP: mjpegtools - MJPEG video capture/editting/playback MPEG encoding
 
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Severity: wishlist
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Package name: mjpegtools
Version: 1.9.0
Upstream Author:
Rainer Johanni <Rainer@Johanni.de>
Gernot Ziegler <gz@lysator.liu.se>
Andrew Stevens <andrew.stevens@nexgo.de>
Bernhard Praschinger <shadowlord@utanet.at>
Ronald Bultje <rbultje@ronald.bitfreak.net>
Xavier Biquard <biquard@free.fr>
Matthew Marjanovic <maddog@mir.com>
pHilipp Zabel <pzabel@gmx.de>
Kawamata/Hitoshi <hitoshi.kawamata@nifty.ne.jp>
Stefan Fendt <stefan@lionfish.ping.de>
Scott Moser <smoser@brickies.net>
Shawn Sulma <lavtools@athos.cx>
Mike Bernson <mike@mlb.org>
James Klicman <james@klicman.org>
URL: http://mjpeg.sourceforge.net/
License: GPL
Description:
The mjpeg programs are a set of tools that can do recording of videos and
playback, simple cut-and-paste editing and the MPEG compression of audio and
video under Linux.


It should be great if someone can package this tools for debian, a software
which I'm packaging depend on this tools.
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=467228

Its already packaged in ubuntu multiverse:
http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/mjpegtools

There is also a version in debian-multimedia:
http://debian-multimedia.org/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/package/mjpegtools.php

I don't understand why mjpegtools is in ubuntu multiverse because as far as I
know, ubuntu multiverse is non-free software, but mjpegtools seems to be free
software as its dependencies.



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Reinhard Tartler 02-18-2009 08:53 AM

Bug#515850: RFP: mjpegtools - MJPEG video capture/editting/playback MPEG encoding
 
[ CC'ed ftp-master, please see below ]

José Manuel Santamaría Lema <panfaust@gmail.com> writes:

> It should be great if someone can package this tools for debian, a software
> which I'm packaging depend on this tools.
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=467228

are you willing to package it under the pkg-multimedia umbrella?

> Its already packaged in ubuntu multiverse:
> http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/mjpegtools
>
> There is also a version in debian-multimedia:
> http://debian-multimedia.org/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/package/mjpegtools.php

Sure, ubuntu has imported some packages from marillat, including
mjpegtools.

> I don't understand why mjpegtools is in ubuntu multiverse because as
> far as I know, ubuntu multiverse is non-free software, but mjpegtools
> seems to be free software as its dependencies.

The debian/copyright file is close to useless. You need to inspect the
source manually to get an idea of its legal status.

>From mpeg2enc/mpeg2coder.cc (but there are many similar comments in mpeg2enc/*.cc):

/*
* Disclaimer of Warranty
*
* These software programs are available to the user without any license fee or
* royalty on an "as is" basis. The MPEG Software Simulation Group disclaims
* any and all warranties, whether express, implied, or statuary, including any
* implied warranties or merchantability or of fitness for a particular
* purpose. In no event shall the copyright-holder be liable for any
* incidental, punitive, or consequential damages of any kind whatsoever
* arising from the use of these programs.
*
* This disclaimer of warranty extends to the user of these programs and user's
* customers, employees, agents, transferees, successors, and assigns.
*
* The MPEG Software Simulation Group does not represent or warrant that the
* programs furnished hereunder are free of infringement of any third-party
* patents.
*
* Commercial implementations of MPEG-1 and MPEG-2 video, including shareware,
* are subject to royalty fees to patent holders. Many of these patents are
* general enough such that they are unavoidable regardless of implementation
* design.
*
*/

One can now argue what "commercial implementation" actually means. I'm
still waiting for ftp-master to comment on this, but AFAIUI, I don't see
why debian wouldn't be able to ship the binaries of mjpegtools, lame and
similar free software in non-free.

non-free as a convenience for users[1], that build assemble and sell
pre-installed and pre-configured devices running debian.

[1] http://debian.org/distrib/pre-installed

ftp-master, can you please comment on adding this kind software to
non-free?



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