2009/2/17 Jonathan Wiltshire <debian@jwiltshire.org.uk>

On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 06:30:58PM +0000, Iulian Udrea wrote:

> I have already packaged this. *I was going to submit an ITP and upload

> it through a sponsor in the next days.



This is one reason why an ITP is expected *before* beginning work.


Yea, indeed.* I completely forgot about it, sorry.

>> > I have already packaged this. I was going to submit an ITP and upload
>> > it through a sponsor in the next days.
>> This is one reason why an ITP is expected *before* beginning work.
> Yea, indeed. I completely forgot about it, sorry.

How did you package it? If it includes the git source do not
bother to upload it, this wont get in.

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> Or write yourself a DFSG-free replacement for that piece of software.
Using the copy and paste method from the old source, obscured by
irrelevant changes.


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On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 06:30:58PM +0000, Iulian Udrea wrote:
> Hello Marc.
>
> I have already packaged this. I was going to submit an ITP and upload
> it through a sponsor in the next days.
>
> So, I would like to take care of this. May I take over this ITP?

Is your package patch available so I can review it?

Also, it doesn't look like you're a DD. Why are you so keen to
maintain it?


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Marc Singer <elf@buici.com> (17/02/2009):
> Also, it doesn't look like you're a DD. Why are you so keen to
> maintain it?

WHEN DID BEING A DD BECOME A PREREQUISITE FOR MAINTAINING A PACKAGE?

The “you're not a DD� blablabla is quite frustrating already, and I
can't think of a good reason to (mis|ab|)use it, especially when there's
no reasons to.

Had you done a bit of research, you'd have found Iulian already
maintains some packages within the Debian archive[1]. And from his mail
address, you could guess that it might be Ubuntu giving back to Debian.

1. http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=iulian@ubuntu.com

Mraw,
KiBi.

2009/2/17 Joerg Jaspert <joerg@debian.org>



>> > I have already packaged this. *I was going to submit an ITP and upload

>> > it through a sponsor in the next days.

>> This is one reason why an ITP is expected *before* beginning work.

> Yea, indeed. *I completely forgot about it, sorry.



How did you package it? If it includes the git source do not

bother to upload it, this wont get in.




Yes, it included the git source but I was not going to upload it in this state.

I'm still thinking of a way to get rid of git source and not affect the rest.

2009/2/18 Marc Singer <elf@buici.com>

Is your package patch available so I can review it?



Also, it doesn't look like you're a DD. *Why are you so keen to

maintain it?


Yes, you're right, I'm not a DD.* Anyway,* I've had no idea that you're a DD.
That being said, perhaps it's better to submit wnpp bugs using your d.o
address?

On the other hand, please ignore my intention to maintain this.


I'm sorry for this.

Cheers

Iulian

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Iulian Udrea <iulian@ubuntu.com> wrote:

> I'm still thinking of a way to get rid of git source and not affect the
> rest.

Get upstream git to stabilise libgit into a proper shared library.
Please see #407722, which I set as blocking the ITP #515793.

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On Wed, 18 Feb 2009, Iulian Udrea wrote:
> 2009/2/18 Marc Singer <elf@buici.com>
> > Is your package patch available so I can review it?
> >
> > Also, it doesn't look like you're a DD. Why are you so keen to
> > maintain it?

*shrug*

Have you never been excited about being able to contribute to
Debian? (I found your answer inappropriate)

> Yes, you're right, I'm not a DD. Anyway, I've had no idea that you're a
> DD. That being said, perhaps it's better to submit wnpp bugs using your
> d.o address?
>
> On the other hand, please ignore my intention to maintain this.

That's not the proper way to end such a discussion. You know we can have
several (co-)maintainers for each package since a very long time.

Put your work on a git repo in collab-maint and work together!

http://wiki.debian.org/Alioth/PackagingProject

> I'm sorry for this.

Don't be sorry, you have done nothing wrong except badly timing your ITP.

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Le mardi 17 février 2009 à 19:14 -0800, Marc Singer a écrit :
> Also, it doesn't look like you're a DD. Why are you so keen to
> maintain it?

For a second, I thought AJ was back. Phew.

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On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 07:14:45PM -0800, Marc Singer wrote:
> Also, it doesn't look like you're a DD. Why are you so keen to
> maintain it?

Please consider refraining to post comments like this in the
future. Your intention might have been good, but written as you wrote
it, it can discourage non-DDs to maintain packages.

We have sponsorship in place exactly because we (unless proven
otherwise) want also non-DDs to maintain packages, of course with
mentoring and review in place before uploading.

Also, the Debian Project endorsed the notion of Debian Maintainer [1]
which, again, show our support to non-DDs maintaining packages
(sometime for the interim before becoming DDs, sometime not).

Cheers.

[1] http://www.debian.org/vote/2007/vote_003

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