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Old 09-09-2008, 02:50 AM
"Mark Purcell"
 
Default Bug#498263: kaffeine: please provide debian/README.source

Sven,

We provide a patch target, which we felt meets the requirement of policy 2.8.

debian-devel, is there a view, does one need README.source if you provide a patch target and use one of the standard patch management systems? Seems like this would cover 90% of use cases and add very little value!

Mark

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Subject: [Pkg-kde-extras] Bug#498263: kaffeine: please provide debian/README.source
From: Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de>
Date: 09/09/2008 07:23

Package: kaffeine
Version: 0.8.7-1
Severity: normal

Hi,

policy version 3.8.0 recommends that packages using a patch system
should ship a debian/README.source file, see section 4.14. Your package
does not include such a file, although it claims to comply to
Standards-Version 3.8.0.

It seems that anyone who wants to hack around kaffeine has to learn cdbs
and quilt first, this is IMHO not so nice.


-- System Information:
Debian Release: lenny/sid
APT prefers unstable
APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.26.3-libata
Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages kaffeine depends on:
ii hdparm 8.9-2 tune hard disk parameters for high
ii kdelibs4c2a 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-6 core libraries and binaries for al
ii libc6 2.7-13 GNU C Library: Shared libraries
ii libcdparanoia0 3.10.0+debian-1 audio extraction tool for sampling
ii libgcc1 1:4.3.2-1 GCC support library
ii libogg0 1.1.3-4 Ogg Bitstream Library
ii libqt3-mt 3:3.3.8b-5 Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime v
ii libstdc++6 4.3.2-1 The GNU Standard C++ Library v3
ii libvorbis0a 1.2.0.dfsg-3.1 The Vorbis General Audio Compressi
ii libvorbisenc2 1.2.0.dfsg-3.1 The Vorbis General Audio Compressi
ii libx11-6 2:1.1.4-2 X11 client-side library
ii libxcb1 1.1-1.1 X C Binding
ii libxext6 2:1.0.4-1 X11 miscellaneous extension librar
ii libxine1 1.1.14-3 the xine video/media player librar
ii libxine1-ffmpeg 1.1.14-3 MPEG-related plugins for libxine1
ii libxine1-x 1.1.14-3 X desktop video output plugins for
ii libxinerama1 2:1.0.3-2 X11 Xinerama extension library
ii libxtst6 2:1.0.3-1 X11 Testing -- Resource extension

kaffeine recommends no packages.

kaffeine suggests no packages.

-- no debconf information



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Old 09-09-2008, 03:28 AM
Russ Allbery
 
Default Bug#498263: kaffeine: please provide debian/README.source

"Mark Purcell" <msp@debian.org> writes:

> We provide a patch target, which we felt meets the requirement of policy 2.8.
>
> debian-devel, is there a view, does one need README.source if you
> provide a patch target and use one of the standard patch management
> systems? Seems like this would cover 90% of use cases and add very
> little value!

The intention was that even those cases would have a README.source file to
save people the effort of trying to figure out whether the patch system
was really in use and whether there was anything odd about how you were
using it. However, there has been some controversy about this and there
is an open Policy bug for discussing presenting it a different way.

If anyone has opinions on the best way of handling this documentation,
please do comment at:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=495233

I would personally prefer that the documentation file be present with
*some* content if any non-standard (read: not supported directly by dpkg)
system were in use to avoid having to guess. I don't think just putting
the patch system into Build-Depends should be sufficient. But it's
possible that I could be outvoted on that.

--
Russ Allbery (rra@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>


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Old 09-09-2008, 03:53 PM
Charles Plessy
 
Default Bug#498263: kaffeine: please provide debian/README.source

Le Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 12:50:23PM +1000, Mark Purcell a écrit :
>
> debian-devel, is there a view, does one need README.source if you
> provide a patch target and use one of the standard patch management
> systems? Seems like this would cover 90% of use cases and add very
> little value!

Hi Mark,

I am getting more an more interested in README.source. There are many
different work styles in Debian, and some developpers definitely do not
want to contact the maintainers before pushing NMUs. I am now trying to
use README.source to provide them guidelines about our packaging
workflow. The text is not fixed yet but here is its latest version:

This package uses quilt to patch the sources. Please refer to
/usr/share/doc/quilt/README.source for more informations.

This package is maintained by the Debian Med packaging team. Please refer to
our group policy if you would like to commit to our Subversion repository. All
Debian developpers have write acces to it.

http://debian-med.alioth.debian.org/docs/policy.html

It is not a big work to cut-and-paste, and hopefully can not be harmful, so
even if the prospect of being useful is very low, I hope that it is not wasted
effort.

Have a nice day,

--
Charles Plessy
Debian Med packaging team,
Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan


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