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Old 08-27-2008, 05:02 PM
Daniel Baumann
 
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Daniel Baumann wrote:
> Nevertheless, we do need your help to find more bugs and improve the
> live systems, so please try them out.

particulary interesting would be to get reports from people with
Intel-based Apple hardware (both notebooks and desktops).

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Old 08-27-2008, 05:02 PM
Daniel Baumann
 
Default Debian Live Lenny Beta1

Daniel Baumann wrote:
> Nevertheless, we do need your help to find more bugs and improve the
> live systems, so please try them out.

particulary interesting would be to get reports from people with
Intel-based Apple hardware (both notebooks and desktops).

Regards,
Daniel

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Old 08-28-2008, 03:28 AM
"s. keeling"
 
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Sorry for top post.

On a Gateway Sempron (32 bit) laptop ...

Where's dhcp? Laptop has builtin ethernet (Marvell Tech. 88E8036)
which etch handles well. I see it also has BCM4318 802.11g wifi
(which I don't use).

No network, but otherwise works fine. :-)


Daniel Baumann <daniel@debian.org>:
>
> Debian Live Lenny Beta1
> =======================
>
> The Debian Live team[0] is pleased to announce the first beta of Debian
> Lenny's Live images.
>
> Although we missed releasing images for Etch along with the installer
> images, we are now prepared to release live images within the regular
> Lenny release process. This is the first official release of Debian Live
> and the whole team has been working hard during the past 2.5 years[1] to
> make Debian's own[2] live systems become a reality.
>
> Nevertheless, we do need your help to find more bugs and improve the
> live systems, so please try them out. The images are available at:
>
> http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/lenny_live_beta1/
>
> Please also have a look at the known issues listed below.
>
> Main features
> =============
>
> 100% Debian
> - ------------
>
> The build process of Debian Live basically consists of creating a Debian
> chroot, installing one or more kernels along with live-initramfs[3] (a
> set of hooks into initramfs-tools for handling booting from read-only
> media) and generating a bootable image from that.
>
> This process is handled by live-helper[4], a collection of shell scripts
> that allow us to automate and customize this process. Considerable
> care[5] is taken to ensure that the resulting live system is not tainted
> by the host system and that installed packages are not modified more
> than absolutely necessary.
>
> This ensures that Debian Live really *is* Debian, and not "just another"
> a Debian-based live system.
>
> Flavours
> - --------
>
> Although live-helper is a toolkit to produce your very own live systems
> with only a few steps, we also provide prebuilt images that are meant to
> be used as reference systems for end-users. Currently, this consists of
> the three major desktop environments (GNOME, KDE and Xfce), as well as a
> small 'standard' image without a graphical environment.
>
> For the desktop environments, package selection is performed by
> 'tasksel' with the respective desktop task, whilst the 'standard' image
> contains only packages of "Priority: standard" or greater,
> notwithstanding a handful of live-specific packages (console-common,
> eject, file, kbd, live-initramfs, locales, sudo and vim-tiny).
>
> Image types
> - -----------
>
> Debian Live offers prebuilt images for CD/DVD discs, USB sticks (or any
> HD-media-like device), tarballs (for PXE netboot) as well as a bare
> squashfs image to boot from the web[6] directly.
>
> Live Magic
> - ----------
>
> Live Magic[7] is an GUI frontend around the live-helper scripts,
> offering a subset of the features of live-helper in an easy-to-use
> graphical user interface.
>
> live-magic 1.0 was recently uploaded to sid and is the recommended
> version. It currently supports 7 languages.
>
> Live Installer
> - --------------
>
> Live Installer[8] is a special udeb for the Debian Installer that
> (optionally) replaces a part of d-i in order to install the system from
> the live image instead of to bootstrapping it from .deb packages. This
> way, a live system can be easily installed to the harddisk, ensuring
> that the look and feel of the installation (including preseeding) works
> the same as the regular installer process.
>
> Unfortunately, live-installer does still have a few minor bugs left and
> is thus not included in our builds yet; we hope to be able to include it
> in the next beta.
>
> Known issues in this release
> ============================
>
> * The prebuilt images for gnome-desktop and kde-desktop are a bit too
> big to fit on a CD. Although the automatic installation of
> Recommends was disabled to build the images, they are still too big.
> This will need further tweaking as they are supposed to fit with the
> next beta.
>
> * The rescue flavour, containing system rescue and forensic related
> packages, is missing in this beta release.
>
> * There will be a DVD image with the next beta that includes all three
> desktop environments so that you can choose at boot time which
> system you would like to start.
>
> * Due to time constraints, the prebuilt images for Beta1 are only
> covering i386 and amd64; with the next beta, powerpc and sparc will
> follow (if you wish to test these architectures earlier, please
> build them yourself).
>
> * The new desktop artwork is not yet included.
>
> * The syslinux menu is still the old, prompt-based one. A freshly made
> new syslinux vgamenu using the official lenny desktop artwork is on
> the way (the same as d-i media will use in Lenny).
>
> * No live-installer included yet (if you wish to test live-installer
> earlier, please build it yourself).
>
> * No win32-loader included yet.
>
> * Sid packages used - At the time of building the live images, both
> live-helper 1.0.0-1 and live-initramfs 1.139.1-1 from sid were used.
> Since the latter has not yet migrated to testing, it was included
> manually as a local package. This is undesirable, as the release is
> supposed to be self-contained - however, it is just a convenient
> workaround as both were granted freeze exception and will migrate
> soon.
>
> Plans for next Beta release
> ===========================
>
> We are looking forward to upload Beta2 in about two weeks from now
> (maybefollowed by a third beta) with one final RC after that which
> should be identical to the final release.
>
> Some more details about the open things we would like to address in
> Beta2 and later can be found at the wiki page[9].
>
> The Debian Live team is still looking for more contributors for new
> features (post-lenny, though) as well as documentation writers for the
> manual (always). If you care about live systems, please join and help[10]!
>
> Thanks
> ======
>
> Last but not least, our thanks goes to everyone who has contributed[11]
> and to all maintainers that have kindly fixed live-specific bugs in
> their packages.
>
> References
> ==========
>
> [0] http://alioth.debian.org/project/memberlist.php?group_id=30929
>
> [1] http://git.debian.net/?p=live-helper.git;a=blob;f=docs/NEWS
>
> [2] http://blog.daniel-baumann.ch/2006/02/14#20060214_debian-live-initiative
>
> [3] http://packages.qa.debian.org/live-initramfs
>
> [4] http://packages.qa.debian.org/live-helper
>
> [5] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/Guidelines
>
> [6]
> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/debian-live-devel/2007-September/002133.html
>
> [7] http://packages.qa.debian.org/live-magic
>
> [8] http://packages.qa.debian.org/live-installer
>
> [9] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/Lenny/Todo#Beta2
>
> [10] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/Contribute
>
> [11] http://git.debian.net/?p=live-helper.git;a=blob;f=docs/CREDITS
> http://git.debian.net/?p=live-initramfs.git;a=blob;f=docs/CREDITS
>
> Regards,
> Daniel
>
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>
>
>
>


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Old 08-28-2008, 08:44 AM
Daniel Baumann
 
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s. keeling wrote:
> On a Gateway Sempron (32 bit) laptop ...
>
> Where's dhcp? Laptop has builtin ethernet (Marvell Tech. 88E8036)
> which etch handles well. I see it also has BCM4318 802.11g wifi
> (which I don't use).

debian-live images do automatically dhcp on detected network cards. i'm
not familiary with the network card you're having, is it supported by
the lenny kernel? if so, then it would be a live-specific bug we happily
debug with you, if not, then there is nothing we can do. same for the
wireless card.

> No network, but otherwise works fine. :-)

thanks for the report nevertheless.

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Old 08-28-2008, 12:52 PM
Didier Raboud
 
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Daniel Baumann wrote:

> Debian Live Lenny Beta1
> =======================
>
> The Debian Live team[0] is pleased to announce the first beta of Debian
> Lenny's Live images.

Hi,

I wonder if multi-arches LiveCD's are planned¬*?

Those amd64-i386-powerpc netinst installation CDs are the _magic_ CDs which
allows you to install Debian on "almost" anything.

Why not building a multi-arch LiveDVD¬*?

Regards,

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Old 08-28-2008, 10:06 PM
Daniel Baumann
 
Default Debian Live Lenny Beta1

Didier Raboud wrote:
> Why not building a multi-arch LiveDVD ?

there's absolutely no reason not to build those; it's just a lack of
time/manpower.. care to send a patch against live-helper?

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Old 08-29-2008, 03:44 AM
"s. keeling"
 
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Incoming from Daniel Baumann:
> s. keeling wrote:
> > On a Gateway Sempron (32 bit) laptop ...
> >
> > Where's dhcp? Laptop has builtin ethernet (Marvell Tech. 88E8036)
> > which etch handles well.

Woops, sorry, Zenwalk (slackware downstream) handles it well. It
appears to be handled by sky2 kernel module there.

sky2 0000:30.0: v1.21 addr 0xd0200000 irq 18 Yukon-FE (0x67) rwl
sky2 eth0: addr [MAC address]
...
sky2 eth0: enabling interface
sky2 eth0: Link is up at 100 Mbps, full duplex, flow control rx

lspci says:

03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd.
88E8036 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller (rev 10)

I figure an insmod sky2 is worth a try (untested). I'll report back.


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Old 08-31-2008, 07:31 PM
Jerome BENOIT
 
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Hello List,

Daniel Baumann wrote:

Daniel Baumann wrote:

Nevertheless, we do need your help to find more bugs and improve the
live systems, so please try them out.


particulary interesting would be to get reports from people with
Intel-based Apple hardware (both notebooks and desktops).


I have just tried the Standard one o my (old) Black MacBook:
because of the keyboard freezing issue, I could not start it :-)

Cheers,
Jerome



Regards,
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Old 08-31-2008, 07:31 PM
Jerome BENOIT
 
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Hello List,

Daniel Baumann wrote:

Daniel Baumann wrote:

Nevertheless, we do need your help to find more bugs and improve the
live systems, so please try them out.


particulary interesting would be to get reports from people with
Intel-based Apple hardware (both notebooks and desktops).


I have just tried the Standard one o my (old) Black MacBook:
because of the keyboard freezing issue, I could not start it :-)

Cheers,
Jerome



Regards,
Daniel



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Old 09-01-2008, 08:23 AM
Johann Spies
 
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On Mon, Sep 01, 2008 at 03:31:23AM +0800, Jerome BENOIT wrote:
> Hello List,
>
> Daniel Baumann wrote:
>> Daniel Baumann wrote:
>>> Nevertheless, we do need your help to find more bugs and improve the
>>> live systems, so please try them out.
>>
>> particulary interesting would be to get reports from people with
>> Intel-based Apple hardware (both notebooks and desktops).
>

Do you want feedback on these lists? I have tried the bugreport
system, but that seems to work with packages. How do I submit
bugreports on the debian-live-cd?

I have tried the amd64-version on a Lenovo R61 as well as on my
Macbook. Maybe I should try the i386 on the Macbook because it did
not boot properly and I could not use the keyboard.

On the R61 I could not get my wifi working. The Fn-F8 key also did
not work. I did not test it fully. Here is an some of the
output of dmesg:


[ 64.897496] iwl3945: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG/BG Network Connection driver for Linux, 1.2.23ks
[ 64.897597] iwl3945: Copyright(c) 2003-2007 Intel Corporation
[ 64.897807] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:03:00.0[A] -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 17
[ 64.897992] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:03:00.0 to 64
[ 64.898018] iwl3945: Detected Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection
[ 64.961632] iwl3945: Tunable channels: 13 802.11bg, 23 802.11a channels
[ 64.962097] phy0: Selected rate control algorithm 'iwl-3945-rs'
[ 65.041211] input: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad as /class/input/input11
[ 65.250270] ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:03:00.0 disabled
[ 65.321756] Yenta: CardBus bridge found at 0000:15:00.0 [17aa:20c6]
[ 65.322266] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1b.0[b] -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 17
[ 65.322456] hda_intel: probe_mask set to 0x1 for device 17aa:20ac
[ 65.322571] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1b.0 to 64
[ 65.450845] Yenta: ISA IRQ mask 0x0cb8, PCI irq 16
[ 65.450923] Socket status: 30000006
[ 65.450990] pcmcia: parent PCI bridge I/O window: 0x7000 - 0xafff
[ 65.451057] pcmcia: parent PCI bridge Memory window: 0xf8300000 - 0xfbffffff
[ 65.451129] pcmcia: parent PCI bridge Memory window: 0xf4000000 - 0xf7ffffff
[ 70.233738] IBM TrackPoint firmware: 0x0e, buttons: 3/3
[ 70.519831] input: TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint as /class/input/input12
[ 75.455434] pnp: the driver 'parport_pc' has been registered
[ 75.456498] lp: driver loaded but no devices found
[ 75.545073] ppdev: user-space parallel port driver
[ 80.364096] input: /usr/sbin/thinkpad-keys as /class/input/input13
[ 81.094322] warning: `avahi-daemon' uses 32-bit capabilities (legacy support in use)
[ 81.440641] NET: Registered protocol family 10
[ 81.441919] lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions
[ 85.766297] Bluetooth: Core ver 2.11
[ 85.770788] NET: Registered protocol family 31
[ 85.770906] Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized
[ 85.771051] Bluetooth: HCI socket layer initialized
[ 85.839928] Bluetooth: L2CAP ver 2.9
[ 85.840035] Bluetooth: L2CAP socket layer initialized
[ 85.841751] Bluetooth: RFCOMM socket layer initialized
[ 85.841891] Bluetooth: RFCOMM TTY layer initialized
[ 85.842011] Bluetooth: RFCOMM ver 1.8
[ 86.335351] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:03:00.0[A] -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 17
[ 86.335757] PM: Writing back config space on device 0000:03:00.0 at offset 1 (was 100102, writing 100106)
[ 86.357675] iwl3945: iwlwifi-3945-1.ucode firmware file req failed: Reason -2
[ 86.357780] iwl3945: Could not read microcode: -2
[ 86.358016] ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:03:00.0 disabled
[ 88.563096] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth1: link is not ready
[ 88.993072] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:03:00.0[A] -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 17
[ 88.993494] PM: Writing back config space on device 0000:03:00.0 at offset 1 (was 100102, writing 100106)
[ 89.004735] iwl3945: iwlwifi-3945-1.ucode firmware file req failed: Reason -2
[ 89.004858] iwl3945: Could not read microcode: -2
[ 89.005132] ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:03:00.0 disabled
[ 95.456369] [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810
[ 95.457564] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:02.0[A] -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16
[ 95.457579] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:02.0 to 64
[ 95.457756] [drm] Initialized i915 1.6.0 20060119 on minor 0
[ 95.833227] mtrr: type mismatch for e0000000,10000000 old: write-back new: write-combining
[ 105.848995] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:03:00.0[A] -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 17
[ 105.849176] PM: Writing back config space on device 0000:03:00.0 at offset 1 (was 100102, writing 100106)
[ 105.862727] iwl3945: iwlwifi-3945-1.ucode firmware file req failed: Reason -2
[ 105.862741] iwl3945: Could not read microcode: -2
[ 105.862921] ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:03:00.0 disabled
[ 122.779675] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:03:00.0[A] -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 17
[ 122.779867] PM: Writing back config space on device 0000:03:00.0 at offset 1 (was 100102, writing 100106)
[ 122.793449] iwl3945: iwlwifi-3945-1.ucode firmware file req failed: Reason -2
[ 122.793463] iwl3945: Could not read microcode: -2
[ 122.793641] ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:03:00.0 disabled
[ 135.494193] CPU0 attaching NULL sched-domain.

Regards
Johann
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