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Old 08-25-2008, 05:37 PM
Michael Biebl
 
Default Bug#78782: syslogs in debian

Holger Levsen wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>
> as you know the state of the various syslogd implementations in Debian well,
> could you please comment on, reassign and/or close #78782? ;-)
>


We nowadays have the virtual packages system-log-daemon and
linux-kernel-log-daemon.
The available syslog solutions we currently have are:
dsyslog
sysklogd/klogd
syslog-ng
socklog-run
rsyslog
inetutils-syslogd

All provide (and conflict with) system-log-daemon/linux-kernel-log-daemon

A analysis of the packages depending on a syslog package some months ago
[1] showed, that all have at least system-log-daemon as alternative
depedency (the ones which didn't have been fixed). So you can switch to
your preferred syslog, if you want so.
The current default syslog for Debian is rsyslog.

The only minor issue that is left, that most packages still specify the
default syslog directly, i.e. most still have

Depends/Recommends/Suggests: sysklogd | system-log-daemon

still after the switch to rsyslog. We'd have to update quite a few
packages to change that to rsyslog | system-log-daemon

There was a related discussion on debian-devel [2][3] about how to
speficy the default mta. I'm interested in the outcome and very likely
pursue the same approach (probably a default-syslog package) for the
syslog packages

In my POV, this bug report can be closed as the raised issues have been
sorted out.

Cheers,
Michael

[1] http://wiki.debian.org/Rsyslog
[2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2008/08/msg00507.html
[3] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2008/08/msg00504.html
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Old 08-25-2008, 05:46 PM
Török Edwin
 
Default Bug#78782: syslogs in debian

On 2008-08-25 20:37, Michael Biebl wrote:

Holger Levsen wrote:


Hi Michael,

as you know the state of the various syslogd implementations in Debian well,
could you please comment on, reassign and/or close #78782? ;-)






We nowadays have the virtual packages system-log-daemon and
linux-kernel-log-daemon.
The available syslog solutions we currently have are:
dsyslog
sysklogd/klogd
syslog-ng
socklog-run
rsyslog
inetutils-syslogd

All provide (and conflict with) system-log-daemon/linux-kernel-log-daemon

A analysis of the packages depending on a syslog package some months ago
[1] showed, that all have at least system-log-daemon as alternative
depedency (the ones which didn't have been fixed). So you can switch to
your preferred syslog, if you want so.
The current default syslog for Debian is rsyslog.



I just installed using Debian lenny beta2 installer, and then did a
dist-upgrade to sid, my syslog is still

sysklogd (though apt-get install rsyslog shows no conflicts).
If rsyslog should have been installed, is it a bug in the installer?

Best regards,
--Edwin



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Old 08-25-2008, 05:58 PM
Michael Biebl
 
Default Bug#78782: syslogs in debian

Török Edwin wrote:
> On 2008-08-25 20:37, Michael Biebl wrote:

>> The current default syslog for Debian is rsyslog.
>>
>
> I just installed using Debian lenny beta2 installer, and then did a
> dist-upgrade to sid, my syslog is still
> sysklogd (though apt-get install rsyslog shows no conflicts).
> If rsyslog should have been installed, is it a bug in the installer?

d-i beta2 is simply too old, it doesn't have rsyslog as default yet
(daily snapshots do).
And on upgrades (e.g. from etch) we purposefully don't replace the
default syslog daemon.
rsyslog will only be installed on fresh installations.

Cheers,
Michael

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