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Old 09-17-2008, 07:31 AM
Paul van der Vlis
 
Default Xen status in lenny?

Jan Wagner schreef:

> since we have rolled out over 50 dom0 with etch, we are really interested into
> having xen dom0 support in lenny.

So far I know you can run Lenny as a dom0, but not with the Lenny
kernel. You can e.g. use the Etch Xen kernel or the Xensource kernel,
both Linux 2.6.18.

It's expected that a dom0 will be included in Linux 2.6.28 or 29, after
some time there will be such a kernel for Lenny.
And this will get security support when "lenny-and-a-half" is released.


( but, I must say: I have tried to upgrade my 64-bit Etch dom0 to Lenny,
but it still does not work at the moment )

With regards,
Paul van der Vlis.




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Old 09-17-2008, 07:42 AM
Jan Wagner
 
Default Xen status in lenny?

Good morning,

On Wednesday 17 September 2008, Paul van der Vlis wrote:
> > since we have rolled out over 50 dom0 with etch, we are really interested
> > into having xen dom0 support in lenny.
>
> So far I know you can run Lenny as a dom0, but not with the Lenny
> kernel. You can e.g. use the Etch Xen kernel or the Xensource kernel,
> both Linux 2.6.18.

thats not what I understand as "dom0 support in lenny". I'm looking for
security support also for the kernel. I guess even if it's planed to release
lenny+1/2 with a dom0 kernel, we have the chance to have 2 pita:

* there will no dom0 support from upstream available in reasonable time
* security support for dom0 etch kernel packages ends without a replacement
available

With kind regards, Jan.
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Old 09-17-2008, 08:39 AM
Jan Wagner
 
Default Xen status in lenny?

Hi Bastian,

On Wednesday 17 September 2008, Bastian Blank wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 10:32:49PM +0200, Jan Wagner wrote:
> > [Option 1-5] (Option 6 / SLES's 2.6.26 mentioned later in thread by
> > Moritz)
>
> Please show it. SLES 11 ships 2.6.25.

I was just refering Message-ID: <slrng7shs0.36d.jmm@inutil.org>, didn't
verify it.

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Old 09-17-2008, 12:17 PM
Pasi Kärkkäinen
 
Default Xen status in lenny?

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 09:42:13AM +0200, Jan Wagner wrote:
> Good morning,
>
> On Wednesday 17 September 2008, Paul van der Vlis wrote:
> > > since we have rolled out over 50 dom0 with etch, we are really interested
> > > into having xen dom0 support in lenny.
> >
> > So far I know you can run Lenny as a dom0, but not with the Lenny
> > kernel. You can e.g. use the Etch Xen kernel or the Xensource kernel,
> > both Linux 2.6.18.
>
> thats not what I understand as "dom0 support in lenny". I'm looking for
> security support also for the kernel. I guess even if it's planed to release
> lenny+1/2 with a dom0 kernel, we have the chance to have 2 pita:
>
> * there will no dom0 support from upstream available in reasonable time

You can monitor these pages for dom0 related info:

dom0 (and other pv_ops) patches:
http://xenbits.xensource.com/paravirt_ops/patches.hg/

General information/progress about pv_ops upstream Xen kernel:
http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenParavirtOps

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Old 09-17-2008, 01:19 PM
Jan Wagner
 
Default Xen status in lenny?

On Wednesday 17 September 2008, Jan Wagner wrote:
> On Wednesday 17 September 2008, Bastian Blank wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 10:32:49PM +0200, Jan Wagner wrote:
> > > [Option 1-5] (Option 6 / SLES's 2.6.26 mentioned later in thread by
> > > Moritz)
> >
> > Please show it. SLES 11 ships 2.6.25.
>
> I was just refering Message-ID: <slrng7shs0.36d.jmm@inutil.org>, didn't
> verify it.

What about
http://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/kernel/kotd/HEAD/x86_64/2.6.26/kernel-
source-2.6.26-HEAD_20080808143035.src.rpm ?

With kind regards, Jan.
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Old 09-17-2008, 02:03 PM
Gustavo Noronha Silva
 
Default Xen status in lenny?

On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 09:31 +0200, Paul van der Vlis wrote:
> ( but, I must say: I have tried to upgrade my 64-bit Etch dom0 to Lenny,
> but it still does not work at the moment )

I upgraded a dom0 I maintain to Lenny, the kernel got upgraded and I had
of course a boot failure when trying to boot Xen 3.2 and linux 2.6.26.
I'm not really sure about the reason since it is a remotely hosted box,
but I had to go back to 2.6.18.

See you,

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Old 09-17-2008, 04:52 PM
Bastian Blank
 
Default Xen status in lenny?

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 03:19:38PM +0200, Jan Wagner wrote:
> What about
> http://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/kernel/kotd/HEAD/x86_64/2.6.26/kernel-
> source-2.6.26-HEAD_20080808143035.src.rpm ?

http://194.39.182.225/debian/xen/ contains packages using most of the
xen parts. http://194.39.182.225/linux/git/2.6.26-xen-suse includes the
patches.

Checksums:
| fdf0c5dd755146ad2b631a60b02e90aa39a20d91 linux-headers-2.6.26-1-xen-686_2.6.26-6_i386.deb
| 90e62bb5548945e19620c6aa0b04b3fc532bc090 linux-headers-2.6.26-1-xen-amd64_2.6.26-6_amd64.deb
| e4bcee9c5d8f1d23c915e56487f51ecb82f405ac linux-image-2.6.26-1-xen-686_2.6.26-6_i386.deb
| 414f9d9c31cfaccbf595011c21b860bb33c56232 linux-image-2.6.26-1-xen-amd64_2.6.26-6_amd64.deb
| db1c10f13b4972a9ed6a2d834f3c14c858e162e7 linux-modules-2.6.26-1-xen-686_2.6.26-6_i386.deb
| 57000e8ff722dad5b5dd027f3b6f487ad0a22ea5 linux-modules-2.6.26-1-xen-amd64_2.6.26-6_amd64.deb
| 5faad1f7e42d8bab766e01a109fd6b50799aa5f5 xen-linux-system-2.6.26-1-xen-686_2.6.26-6_i386.deb
| b06d9c5373927db34787bddfd9b455dec0bf2a8f xen-linux-system-2.6.26-1-xen-amd64_2.6.26-6_amd64.deb

Bastian

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Old 09-17-2008, 04:54 PM
Bastian Blank
 
Default Xen status in lenny?

Should actually sign this.

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 06:52:38PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote:
> Checksums:
| fdf0c5dd755146ad2b631a60b02e90aa39a20d91 linux-headers-2.6.26-1-xen-686_2.6.26-6_i386.deb
| 90e62bb5548945e19620c6aa0b04b3fc532bc090 linux-headers-2.6.26-1-xen-amd64_2.6.26-6_amd64.deb
| e4bcee9c5d8f1d23c915e56487f51ecb82f405ac linux-image-2.6.26-1-xen-686_2.6.26-6_i386.deb
| 414f9d9c31cfaccbf595011c21b860bb33c56232 linux-image-2.6.26-1-xen-amd64_2.6.26-6_amd64.deb
| db1c10f13b4972a9ed6a2d834f3c14c858e162e7 linux-modules-2.6.26-1-xen-686_2.6.26-6_i386.deb
| 57000e8ff722dad5b5dd027f3b6f487ad0a22ea5 linux-modules-2.6.26-1-xen-amd64_2.6.26-6_amd64.deb
| 5faad1f7e42d8bab766e01a109fd6b50799aa5f5 xen-linux-system-2.6.26-1-xen-686_2.6.26-6_i386.deb
| b06d9c5373927db34787bddfd9b455dec0bf2a8f xen-linux-system-2.6.26-1-xen-amd64_2.6.26-6_amd64.deb

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Old 09-17-2008, 06:40 PM
André Luís Lopes
 
Default Xen status in lenny?

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Hello kov,

Gustavo Noronha Silva escreveu:
> On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 09:31 +0200, Paul van der Vlis wrote:
>> ( but, I must say: I have tried to upgrade my 64-bit Etch dom0 to Lenny,
>> but it still does not work at the moment )
>
> I upgraded a dom0 I maintain to Lenny, the kernel got upgraded and I had
> of course a boot failure when trying to boot Xen 3.2 and linux 2.6.26.
> I'm not really sure about the reason since it is a remotely hosted box,
> but I had to go back to 2.6.18.

Yes, this will happen as there's no official dom0 support for kernels
which are newer than 2.6.18 coming from XenSource. Etch had a kernel
which had dom0 support as it was based exactly on 2.6.18.

We are discussing exactly this subject here. The distros which wants
to have a working dom0 support would need to do one more forward-porting
work so dom0 support would be available on later kernels (2.6.26, por
example).

It seems that SuSE did the work fot 2.6.26. The idea is to use a
paravirt_ops based kernel in the future, possibly starting on Lenny+1/2,
which would support dom0 natively without the need of a
non-official/non-supported forward-port.

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Old 09-17-2008, 08:37 PM
Gustavo Noronha Silva
 
Default Xen status in lenny?

On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 15:40 -0300, André Luís Lopes wrote:
> Gustavo Noronha Silva escreveu:
> > On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 09:31 +0200, Paul van der Vlis wrote:
> >> ( but, I must say: I have tried to upgrade my 64-bit Etch dom0 to Lenny,
> >> but it still does not work at the moment )
> >
> > I upgraded a dom0 I maintain to Lenny, the kernel got upgraded and I had
> > of course a boot failure when trying to boot Xen 3.2 and linux 2.6.26.
> > I'm not really sure about the reason since it is a remotely hosted box,
> > but I had to go back to 2.6.18.
>
> Yes, this will happen as there's no official dom0 support for kernels
> which are newer than 2.6.18 coming from XenSource. Etch had a kernel
> which had dom0 support as it was based exactly on 2.6.18.

Yeah, I realized that. My goal with my email was to actually say that
the system does work correctly after the upgrade, even if the kernel is
'outdated', but I just noticed that I failed to mention that hehe. So
here it is.

See you,

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