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Old 10-05-2012, 01:05 PM
"James B. Byrne"
 
Default Installing a gnome-desktop on CENTOS-6.3 following minimal system install.

I am still trying without much success to get a desktop on my minimal
+ virtualization install of a CentOS-6.3 kvm host. When I run startx
I get a desktop but other than the icons for computer, home and trash
there is nothing displayed. I can right click the mouse and from
there I can open a terminal window and creat a folder on the desktop
but I have no title bar and no status bar. There are no drop down
menus for applications, system or anything else.

This is the content of my env:

env | sort
_=/bin/env
COLORTERM=gnome-terminal
CVS_RSH=ssh
DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-tComprYFWO,guid=d2919a7fcf4b75fd97d539fe00000062
DISPLAY=:0.0
G_BROKEN_FILENAMES=1
GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID=this-is-deprecated
GNOME_KEYRING_SOCKET=/tmp/keyring-Q8NLAk/socket
GTK_RC_FILES=/etc/gtk/gtkrc:/root/.gtkrc-1.2-gnome2
HISTCONTROL=ignoredups
HISTSIZE=1000
HOME=/root
HOSTNAME=vhost04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LESSOPEN=|/usr/bin/lesspipe.sh %s
LOGNAME=root
LS_COLORS=. . . *.xspf=01;36:
MAIL=/var/spool/mail/root
ORBIT_SOCKETDIR=/tmp/orbit-root
PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/root/bin
PWD=/root/Desktop
SESSION_MANAGER=local/unix:@/tmp/.ICE-unix/2690,unix/unix:/tmp/.ICE-unix/2690
SHELL=/bin/bash
SHLVL=3
SSH_AGENT_PID=2691
SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/keyring-Q8NLAk/socket.ssh
TERM=xterm
USER=root
WINDOWID=29365969
WINDOWPATH=7
XAUTHORITY=/root/.Xauthority
XDG_SESSION_COOKIE=2a071ee033f2806e361d3a130000001 0-1349440548.28361-792141036

I have installed the following packages via yum:

reinstall gnome-desktop-2.28.2-9.el6.centos.x86_64
install gdm-1:2.30.4-33.el6_2.x86_64
groupinstall "x window system"
groupinstall "general purpose desktop"
install gnome-desktop

ps shows these active processes that appear to pertain to the window
session:

root 2651 2623 0 08:35 tty1 00:00:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/startx
root 2667 2651 0 08:35 tty1 00:00:00 xinit
/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc --
/usr/bin/X :0 -auth /root/.serverauth.2651
root 2668 2667 1 08:35 tty7 00:00:20 /usr/bin/X :0 -auth
/root/.serve
rauth.2651
root 2674 2667 0 08:35 ? 00:00:00
/usr/bin/ck-xinit-session /usr/b
in/ssh-agent /etc/X11/xinit/Xclients
root 2681 1 0 08:35 ? 00:00:00 dbus-launch
--sh-syntax --exit-w
ith-session
root 2682 1 0 08:35 ? 00:00:01 /bin/dbus-daemon
--fork --print-
pid 5 --print-address 7 --session
root 2690 2674 0 08:35 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/gnome-session
root 2691 2690 0 08:35 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent
/etc/X11/xini
t/Xclients
root 2698 1 0 08:35 ? 00:00:00
/usr/libexec/devkit-power-daemon
root 2721 1 0 08:35 ? 00:00:00
/usr/libexec/gnome-settings-daem
on
root 2724 1 0 08:35 ? 00:00:00 seahorse-daemon
root 2725 1 0 08:35 ? 00:00:00 gnome-keyring-daemon
--start
root 2729 1 0 08:35 ? 00:00:00 /usr/libexec/gvfsd
root 2735 1 0 08:35 ? 00:00:00
/usr/libexec//gvfs-fuse-daemon /
root/.gvfs
root 2745 2690 0 08:35 ? 00:00:01 metacity
root 2756 2690 0 08:35 ? 00:00:02 nautilus
root 2759 2690 0 08:35 ? 00:00:00 gnome-power-manager
root 2763 2690 0 08:35 ? 00:00:00
gnome-volume-control-applet
root 2764 2690 0 08:35 ? 00:00:00
/usr/libexec/gdu-notification-da
emon
root 2767 2690 0 08:35 ? 00:00:00
/usr/libexec/polkit-gnome-authen
tication-agent-1
root 2770 1 0 08:35 ? 00:00:00
/usr/libexec/udisks-daemon
root 2773 2690 0 08:35 ? 00:00:00 bluetooth-applet
root 2775 1 0 08:35 ? 00:00:00
/usr/libexec/polkit-1/polkitd
root 2776 2770 0 08:35 ? 00:00:00 udisks-daemon: polling
/dev/sr0
root 2784 1 0 08:35 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/restorecond -u
root 2786 1 0 08:35 ? 00:00:00
/usr/libexec/gvfsd-trash --spawn
er :1.8 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/0
root 2788 1 0 08:35 ? 00:00:00
/usr/libexec/gvfs-gdu-volume-mon
itor
root 2790 1 0 08:35 ? 00:00:00
/usr/libexec/gvfs-gphoto2-volume
-monitor
root 2792 1 0 08:35 ? 00:00:00
/usr/libexec/gvfs-afc-volume-mon
itor
root 2798 1 0 08:35 ? 00:00:00
/usr/libexec/gvfsd-burn --spawne
r :1.8 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/1
root 2801 1 0 08:36 ? 00:00:00
/usr/libexec/gvfsd-computer --sp
awner :1.8 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/2
root 2805 1 0 08:36 ? 00:00:00
/usr/libexec/gvfsd-metadata
root 2821 1 0 08:37 ? 00:00:03
/usr/bin/gnome-terminal -x /bin/
sh -c cd '/root/Desktop' && exec $SHELL
root 2822 2821 0 08:37 ? 00:00:00 gnome-pty-helper
root 2823 2821 0 08:37 pts/0 00:00:00 /bin/bash
root 2841 1 0 08:37 ? 00:00:00 seahorse-daemon

So what is it that I am missing? What other step is required to get
my 'normal' gnome desktop with the utilities ans such displayed in the
title bar?


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Old 10-05-2012, 01:31 PM
Nux!
 
Default Installing a gnome-desktop on CENTOS-6.3 following minimal system install.

On 05.10.2012 14:05, James B. Byrne wrote:

> So what is it that I am missing? What other step is required to get
> my 'normal' gnome desktop with the utilities ans such displayed in
> the
> title bar?

Try:
yum groupinstall "Desktop" "Desktop Platform" "General Purpose Desktop"

Btw, you can't really have "minimal" AND "gnome" ... :-)

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Old 10-05-2012, 01:34 PM
Nux!
 
Default Installing a gnome-desktop on CENTOS-6.3 following minimal system install.

On 05.10.2012 14:31, Nux! wrote:
> On 05.10.2012 14:05, James B. Byrne wrote:
>
>> So what is it that I am missing? What other step is required to get
>> my 'normal' gnome desktop with the utilities ans such displayed in
>> the
>> title bar?
>
> Try:
> yum groupinstall "Desktop" "Desktop Platform" "General Purpose
> Desktop"
>
> Btw, you can't really have "minimal" AND "gnome" ... :-)

Also, make sure you install "gdm" and "gdm-user-switch-applet" if you
want a graphical login manager. /etc/inittab default runlevel needs to
be 5.
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Old 10-05-2012, 01:39 PM
 
Default Installing a gnome-desktop on CENTOS-6.3 following minimal system install.

Nux! wrote:
> On 05.10.2012 14:31, Nux! wrote:
>> On 05.10.2012 14:05, James B. Byrne wrote:
>>
>>> So what is it that I am missing? What other step is required to get
>>> my 'normal' gnome desktop with the utilities ans such displayed in
>>> the title bar?
>>
>> Try:
>> yum groupinstall "Desktop" "Desktop Platform" "General Purpose
>> Desktop"
>>
>> Btw, you can't really have "minimal" AND "gnome" ... :-)
>
<snip>
Yeah... they keep changing the group names, for no good reason AFAIK. For
example, between 5 and 6, they changed KDE from "KDE (K Desktop
Environment)" to "KDE Desktop". Note that we groupinstall "X Window
System" and Desktop, and *then* the KDE; I'd assume gnome was the same.

mark, confirmed gnome disliker (and hater of gnome 3)

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Old 10-05-2012, 02:43 PM
Phil Dobbin
 
Default Installing a gnome-desktop on CENTOS-6.3 following minimal system install.

m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:

> Nux! wrote:
>> On 05.10.2012 14:31, Nux! wrote:
>>> On 05.10.2012 14:05, James B. Byrne wrote:
>>>
>>>> So what is it that I am missing? What other step is required to get
>>>> my 'normal' gnome desktop with the utilities ans such displayed in
>>>> the title bar?
>>> Try:
>>> yum groupinstall "Desktop" "Desktop Platform" "General Purpose
>>> Desktop"
>>>
>>> Btw, you can't really have "minimal" AND "gnome" ... :-)
> <snip>
> Yeah... they keep changing the group names, for no good reason AFAIK. For
> example, between 5 and 6, they changed KDE from "KDE (K Desktop
> Environment)" to "KDE Desktop". Note that we groupinstall "X Window
> System" and Desktop, and *then* the KDE; I'd assume gnome was the same.
>
> mark, confirmed gnome disliker (and hater of gnome 3)

If I require a minimal desktop in CentOS 6, I usually use the net
install ISO & when the time comes, just select 'minimal desktop' &
there's a small(ish) gnome desktop installed but without all the major
cruft.

Granted this minimal desktop does include Firefox but then again, if I
want a desktop environment, I usually want Firefox.

Cheers,

Phil...

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CentOS 6.3, Debian Squeeze, Fedora Beefy, OS X Snow Leopard, Ubuntu Precise


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Old 10-05-2012, 05:14 PM
"James B. Byrne"
 
Default Installing a gnome-desktop on CENTOS-6.3 following minimal system install.

On Fri, October 5, 2012 10:43, Phil Dobbin wrote:
> m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
>
>> Nux! wrote:
>>> On 05.10.2012 14:31, Nux! wrote:
>>>> On 05.10.2012 14:05, James B. Byrne wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So what is it that I am missing? What other step is required to
>>>>> get
>>>>> my 'normal' gnome desktop with the utilities ans such displayed
>>>>> in
>>>>> the title bar?
>>>> Try:
>>>> yum groupinstall "Desktop" "Desktop Platform" "General Purpose
>>>> Desktop"
>>>>
>>>> Btw, you can't really have "minimal" AND "gnome" ... :-)
>> <snip>
>> Yeah... they keep changing the group names, for no good reason
>> AFAIK. For
>> example, between 5 and 6, they changed KDE from "KDE (K Desktop
>> Environment)" to "KDE Desktop". Note that we groupinstall "X Window
>> System" and Desktop, and *then* the KDE; I'd assume gnome was the
>> same.
>>
>> mark, confirmed gnome disliker (and hater of gnome 3)
>
> If I require a minimal desktop in CentOS 6, I usually use the net
> install ISO & when the time comes, just select 'minimal desktop' &
> there's a small(ish) gnome desktop installed but without all the major
> cruft.
>
> Granted this minimal desktop does include Firefox but then again, if I
> want a desktop environment, I usually want Firefox.
>
yum groupinstall "Desktop" "Desktop Platform" "General Purpose Desktop"

appears to have worked. As I had already installed two of these I
infer that the missing bit was "Desktop Platform". Is there a purpose
served by making the process of installing the gnome-desktop so
opaque? Not that it matters much to me for I am likely to be
switching to kde once Redhat embraces Gnome3. But it does seem
needlessly convoluted. I thought that the whole purpose of
groupinstall was to avoid this sort of peek-a-boo package selection.

Anyway, it is installed and working. This is a temporary arrangement
as I intend to remove the desktop components from the kvm host OS once
I am finished.

There is one 'gotcha' however. When I installed the three of these
packages NetworkManager got turned on. This evidently overrode the
NM_CONTROLLED=NO configuration in the ifcfg files.

This is not a good thing when you have eth0 linked to a bridge and you
have a dhcp server somewhere on your lan. I ended up with br0 having
one IP and eth0 having another, which had, shall we say, interesting
effects on connectivity.

Thank you for the help. I am very much afraid that I would never have
sorted this out on my own.

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Old 10-05-2012, 05:22 PM
 
Default Installing a gnome-desktop on CENTOS-6.3 following minimal system install.

James B. Byrne wrote:
> On Fri, October 5, 2012 10:43, Phil Dobbin wrote:
>> m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
>>> Nux! wrote:
>>>> On 05.10.2012 14:31, Nux! wrote:
>>>>> On 05.10.2012 14:05, James B. Byrne wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> So what is it that I am missing? What other step is required to
>>>>>> get my 'normal' gnome desktop with the utilities ans such displayed
>>>>>> in the title bar?
>>>>> Try:
>>>>> yum groupinstall "Desktop" "Desktop Platform" "General Purpose
>>>>> Desktop"
>>>>>
>>> <snip>
>>> Yeah... they keep changing the group names, for no good reason
>>> AFAIK. For
>>> example, between 5 and 6, they changed KDE from "KDE (K Desktop
>>> Environment)" to "KDE Desktop". Note that we groupinstall "X Window
>>> System" and Desktop, and *then* the KDE; I'd assume gnome was the
>>> same.
<snip>
> yum groupinstall "Desktop" "Desktop Platform" "General Purpose Desktop"
>
> appears to have worked. As I had already installed two of these I

Glad to hear it. I've not a clue why you need three seperate groups....

> infer that the missing bit was "Desktop Platform". Is there a purpose
> served by making the process of installing the gnome-desktop so
> opaque? Not that it matters much to me for I am likely to be
> switching to kde once Redhat embraces Gnome3. But it does seem

I had to deal with that on one user's Fedora. AUGHGHGHGHGH!!!! The "k3wl"
icons that only appear when you roll over them, and fade from transparent
to off....

Must be fun, being a developer who's never worked anywhere "normal"....
<snip>
> There is one 'gotcha' however. When I installed the three of these
> packages NetworkManager got turned on. This evidently overrode the
> NM_CONTROLLED=NO configuration in the ifcfg files.

My manager and I have agreed that if I feel like, I can uninstall
NetworkManager. I have done so, with no problems.

But then, I always shut down avahi-daemon, and close the firewall hole for
it. I mean, in a wired environment, and it's a *server*?!
<snip>
mark

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