Installing a gnome-desktop on CENTOS-6.3 following minimal system install.
I am still trying without much success to get a desktop on my minimal
+ virtualization install of a CentOS-6.3 kvm host. When I run startx
I get a desktop but other than the icons for computer, home and trash
there is nothing displayed. I can right click the mouse and from
there I can open a terminal window and creat a folder on the desktop
but I have no title bar and no status bar. There are no drop down
menus for applications, system or anything else.
So what is it that I am missing? What other step is required to get
my 'normal' gnome desktop with the utilities ans such displayed in the
title bar?
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10-05-2012, 01:31 PM
Nux!
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On 05.10.2012 14:05, James B. Byrne wrote:
> So what is it that I am missing? What other step is required to get
> my 'normal' gnome desktop with the utilities ans such displayed in
> the
> title bar?
Btw, you can't really have "minimal" AND "gnome" ... :-)
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10-05-2012, 01:34 PM
Nux!
Installing a gnome-desktop on CENTOS-6.3 following minimal system install.
On 05.10.2012 14:31, Nux! wrote:
> On 05.10.2012 14:05, James B. Byrne wrote:
>
>> So what is it that I am missing? What other step is required to get
>> my 'normal' gnome desktop with the utilities ans such displayed in
>> the
>> title bar?
>
> Try:
> yum groupinstall "Desktop" "Desktop Platform" "General Purpose
> Desktop"
>
> Btw, you can't really have "minimal" AND "gnome" ... :-)
Also, make sure you install "gdm" and "gdm-user-switch-applet" if you
want a graphical login manager. /etc/inittab default runlevel needs to
be 5.
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10-05-2012, 01:39 PM
Installing a gnome-desktop on CENTOS-6.3 following minimal system install.
Nux! wrote:
> On 05.10.2012 14:31, Nux! wrote:
>> On 05.10.2012 14:05, James B. Byrne wrote:
>>
>>> So what is it that I am missing? What other step is required to get
>>> my 'normal' gnome desktop with the utilities ans such displayed in
>>> the title bar?
>>
>> Try:
>> yum groupinstall "Desktop" "Desktop Platform" "General Purpose
>> Desktop"
>>
>> Btw, you can't really have "minimal" AND "gnome" ... :-)
>
<snip>
Yeah... they keep changing the group names, for no good reason AFAIK. For
example, between 5 and 6, they changed KDE from "KDE (K Desktop
Environment)" to "KDE Desktop". Note that we groupinstall "X Window
System" and Desktop, and *then* the KDE; I'd assume gnome was the same.
mark, confirmed gnome disliker (and hater of gnome 3)
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10-05-2012, 02:43 PM
Phil Dobbin
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m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
> Nux! wrote:
>> On 05.10.2012 14:31, Nux! wrote:
>>> On 05.10.2012 14:05, James B. Byrne wrote:
>>>
>>>> So what is it that I am missing? What other step is required to get
>>>> my 'normal' gnome desktop with the utilities ans such displayed in
>>>> the title bar?
>>> Try:
>>> yum groupinstall "Desktop" "Desktop Platform" "General Purpose
>>> Desktop"
>>>
>>> Btw, you can't really have "minimal" AND "gnome" ... :-)
> <snip>
> Yeah... they keep changing the group names, for no good reason AFAIK. For
> example, between 5 and 6, they changed KDE from "KDE (K Desktop
> Environment)" to "KDE Desktop". Note that we groupinstall "X Window
> System" and Desktop, and *then* the KDE; I'd assume gnome was the same.
>
> mark, confirmed gnome disliker (and hater of gnome 3)
If I require a minimal desktop in CentOS 6, I usually use the net
install ISO & when the time comes, just select 'minimal desktop' &
there's a small(ish) gnome desktop installed but without all the major
cruft.
Granted this minimal desktop does include Firefox but then again, if I
want a desktop environment, I usually want Firefox.
Cheers,
Phil...
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10-05-2012, 05:14 PM
"James B. Byrne"
Installing a gnome-desktop on CENTOS-6.3 following minimal system install.
On Fri, October 5, 2012 10:43, Phil Dobbin wrote:
> m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
>
>> Nux! wrote:
>>> On 05.10.2012 14:31, Nux! wrote:
>>>> On 05.10.2012 14:05, James B. Byrne wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So what is it that I am missing? What other step is required to
>>>>> get
>>>>> my 'normal' gnome desktop with the utilities ans such displayed
>>>>> in
>>>>> the title bar?
>>>> Try:
>>>> yum groupinstall "Desktop" "Desktop Platform" "General Purpose
>>>> Desktop"
>>>>
>>>> Btw, you can't really have "minimal" AND "gnome" ... :-)
>> <snip>
>> Yeah... they keep changing the group names, for no good reason
>> AFAIK. For
>> example, between 5 and 6, they changed KDE from "KDE (K Desktop
>> Environment)" to "KDE Desktop". Note that we groupinstall "X Window
>> System" and Desktop, and *then* the KDE; I'd assume gnome was the
>> same.
>>
>> mark, confirmed gnome disliker (and hater of gnome 3)
>
> If I require a minimal desktop in CentOS 6, I usually use the net
> install ISO & when the time comes, just select 'minimal desktop' &
> there's a small(ish) gnome desktop installed but without all the major
> cruft.
>
> Granted this minimal desktop does include Firefox but then again, if I
> want a desktop environment, I usually want Firefox.
>
yum groupinstall "Desktop" "Desktop Platform" "General Purpose Desktop"
appears to have worked. As I had already installed two of these I
infer that the missing bit was "Desktop Platform". Is there a purpose
served by making the process of installing the gnome-desktop so
opaque? Not that it matters much to me for I am likely to be
switching to kde once Redhat embraces Gnome3. But it does seem
needlessly convoluted. I thought that the whole purpose of
groupinstall was to avoid this sort of peek-a-boo package selection.
Anyway, it is installed and working. This is a temporary arrangement
as I intend to remove the desktop components from the kvm host OS once
I am finished.
There is one 'gotcha' however. When I installed the three of these
packages NetworkManager got turned on. This evidently overrode the
NM_CONTROLLED=NO configuration in the ifcfg files.
This is not a good thing when you have eth0 linked to a bridge and you
have a dhcp server somewhere on your lan. I ended up with br0 having
one IP and eth0 having another, which had, shall we say, interesting
effects on connectivity.
Thank you for the help. I am very much afraid that I would never have
sorted this out on my own.
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10-05-2012, 05:22 PM
Installing a gnome-desktop on CENTOS-6.3 following minimal system install.
James B. Byrne wrote:
> On Fri, October 5, 2012 10:43, Phil Dobbin wrote:
>> m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
>>> Nux! wrote:
>>>> On 05.10.2012 14:31, Nux! wrote:
>>>>> On 05.10.2012 14:05, James B. Byrne wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> So what is it that I am missing? What other step is required to
>>>>>> get my 'normal' gnome desktop with the utilities ans such displayed
>>>>>> in the title bar?
>>>>> Try:
>>>>> yum groupinstall "Desktop" "Desktop Platform" "General Purpose
>>>>> Desktop"
>>>>>
>>> <snip>
>>> Yeah... they keep changing the group names, for no good reason
>>> AFAIK. For
>>> example, between 5 and 6, they changed KDE from "KDE (K Desktop
>>> Environment)" to "KDE Desktop". Note that we groupinstall "X Window
>>> System" and Desktop, and *then* the KDE; I'd assume gnome was the
>>> same.
<snip>
> yum groupinstall "Desktop" "Desktop Platform" "General Purpose Desktop"
>
> appears to have worked. As I had already installed two of these I
Glad to hear it. I've not a clue why you need three seperate groups....
> infer that the missing bit was "Desktop Platform". Is there a purpose
> served by making the process of installing the gnome-desktop so
> opaque? Not that it matters much to me for I am likely to be
> switching to kde once Redhat embraces Gnome3. But it does seem
I had to deal with that on one user's Fedora. AUGHGHGHGHGH!!!! The "k3wl"
icons that only appear when you roll over them, and fade from transparent
to off....
Must be fun, being a developer who's never worked anywhere "normal"....
<snip>
> There is one 'gotcha' however. When I installed the three of these
> packages NetworkManager got turned on. This evidently overrode the
> NM_CONTROLLED=NO configuration in the ifcfg files.
My manager and I have agreed that if I feel like, I can uninstall
NetworkManager. I have done so, with no problems.
But then, I always shut down avahi-daemon, and close the firewall hole for
it. I mean, in a wired environment, and it's a *server*?!
<snip>
mark
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