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Old 11-15-2011, 01:35 PM
Reindl Harald
 
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Am 15.11.2011 14:56, schrieb Timothy Murphy:
> But isn't everyone today using laptops for everyday use?

this is what some braindead developers seems to think
but it is not true nor will it never get true!

why in the world should i use a laptop in my office if
i can have a Core i7 Quad combined with much more and
better hardware as ever possible in a laptop?

why in the world should i use a laptop @home where i
have a dedicated place for a powerful machine with much
less heat and noise than a crappy laptop?

i have worked long enough with laptops and they was, they are
and they will always be useless crap if you need power and
comfort while you do more as webbrowsing or read a handful
mails what i can do with my mobile



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Old 11-15-2011, 01:42 PM
Steve Clark
 
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On 11/15/2011 09:35 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> Am 15.11.2011 14:56, schrieb Timothy Murphy:
>> But isn't everyone today using laptops for everyday use?
> this is what some braindead developers seems to think
> but it is not true nor will it never get true!
>
> why in the world should i use a laptop in my office if
> i can have a Core i7 Quad combined with much more and
> better hardware as ever possible in a laptop?
>
> why in the world should i use a laptop @home where i
> have a dedicated place for a powerful machine with much
> less heat and noise than a crappy laptop?
>
> i have worked long enough with laptops and they was, they are
> and they will always be useless crap if you need power and
> comfort while you do more as webbrowsing or read a handful
> mails what i can do with my mobile
>
>
+1

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Old 11-15-2011, 01:52 PM
Timothy Murphy
 
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Reindl Harald wrote:

>> But isn't everyone today using laptops for everyday use?
>
> this is what some braindead developers seems to think
> but it is not true nor will it never get true!
>
> why in the world should i use a laptop in my office if
> i can have a Core i7 Quad combined with much more and
> better hardware as ever possible in a laptop?

Don't you think you are in a very small minority,
like 1% of the world?

What percentage are using iPhones and Androids to access the internet?
I'd guess it is already over 50%.


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Old 11-15-2011, 02:03 PM
 
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Timothy Murphy wrote:
> Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>>> But isn't everyone today using laptops for everyday use?
>>
>> this is what some braindead developers seems to think
>> but it is not true nor will it never get true!
>>
>> why in the world should i use a laptop in my office if
>> i can have a Core i7 Quad combined with much more and
>> better hardware as ever possible in a laptop?
>
> Don't you think you are in a very small minority,
> like 1% of the world?

Nope. And certainly not from where I've sat for several years.
>
> What percentage are using iPhones and Androids to access the internet?
> I'd guess it is already over 50%.

I'd guess you're massively wrong.

And before you start, are you prepared to put down, out of your personal
wallet, the money for eye surgery for me, to give me 15/20 vision, so I
can read the damn thing? You *really* enjoy looking at videos, or even
trying to read email, either at 2-3 words per line, or in 3 point type?
And while we're at it, I suggest you look at, say, the official MySQL
documentation on your itty-bitty-screen. I do it, on a browser set at
about a quarter of a 22" diagonal screen, and *still* see the idiots have
some of the formatting set so that it overprints.

mark "wants a better ->telephone<-, to TALK to people"
>
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Old 11-15-2011, 02:13 PM
Benjamin Franz
 
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On 11/15/2011 06:52 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> What percentage are using iPhones and Androids to access the internet?
> I'd guess it is already over 50%.
>

Mobile devices still have *under* 6% of the internet browser market.

See http://www.netmarketshare.com/

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Old 11-15-2011, 02:14 PM
Rob Kampen
 
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Timothy Murphy wrote:

Reindl Harald wrote:



But isn't everyone today using laptops for everyday use?


this is what some braindead developers seems to think
but it is not true nor will it never get true!

why in the world should i use a laptop in my office if
i can have a Core i7 Quad combined with much more and
better hardware as ever possible in a laptop?



Don't you think you are in a very small minority,
like 1% of the world?

What percentage are using iPhones and Androids to access the internet?
I'd guess it is already over 50%.


So what - I use an iPhone to read my mail when out and about, but my
real work happens on a desk-top
- dual 22" monitors, average 10+ open applications, run a virtualbox
with windoze XP for a realtor app that only works on IE (yeah, go
figure, we are in 2011 and they force everyone to use IE).

Long live the desktop!!
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Old 11-15-2011, 02:26 PM
Steve Thompson
 
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On Tue, 15 Nov 2011, Timothy Murphy wrote:

> Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>>> But isn't everyone today using laptops for everyday use?
>>
>> this is what some braindead developers seems to think
>> but it is not true nor will it never get true!
>>
>> why in the world should i use a laptop in my office if
>> i can have a Core i7 Quad combined with much more and
>> better hardware as ever possible in a laptop?
>
> Don't you think you are in a very small minority,
> like 1% of the world?

Not by a long long way.
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Old 11-15-2011, 02:27 PM
Ljubomir Ljubojevic
 
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Vreme: 11/15/2011 03:52 PM, Timothy Murphy piše:
> Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>>> But isn't everyone today using laptops for everyday use?
>>
>> this is what some braindead developers seems to think
>> but it is not true nor will it never get true!
>>
>> why in the world should i use a laptop in my office if
>> i can have a Core i7 Quad combined with much more and
>> better hardware as ever possible in a laptop?
>
> Don't you think you are in a very small minority,
> like 1% of the world?

Since only slightly above 1% of people in the world uses Linux, this
means that all Linux users use Desktops instead of lap-top's ;-D

>
> What percentage are using iPhones and Androids to access the internet?
> I'd guess it is already over 50%.
>
>
For Desktop is considered ANYTHING that you use "on" your table, even
when the box is on the floor.

Laptops use is limited to 3-4 years until it brakes. And there is no
cheap repair, and you can not add enough HDD's you need, at least one
more for backup.

Many IT workers will have some kind of RAID on their boxes.


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Old 11-15-2011, 02:30 PM
Ljubomir Ljubojevic
 
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Vreme: 11/15/2011 04:14 PM, Rob Kampen piše:
> run a virtualbox with windoze XP for a realtor app that only works on IE
> (yeah, go figure, we are in 2011 and they force everyone to use IE)

Install PlayOnLinux (Wine installer) and install IE6 inside it. Maybe
your App will work without virtual Win.

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Old 11-15-2011, 02:34 PM
John Hinton
 
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On 11/15/2011 9:35 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> Am 15.11.2011 14:56, schrieb Timothy Murphy:
>> But isn't everyone today using laptops for everyday use?
> this is what some braindead developers seems to think
> but it is not true nor will it never get true!
>
> why in the world should i use a laptop in my office if
> i can have a Core i7 Quad combined with much more and
> better hardware as ever possible in a laptop?
>
> why in the world should i use a laptop @home where i
> have a dedicated place for a powerful machine with much
> less heat and noise than a crappy laptop?
>
> i have worked long enough with laptops and they was, they are
> and they will always be useless crap if you need power and
> comfort while you do more as webbrowsing or read a handful
> mails what i can do with my mobile
Agreed! The cramped screen space (I run dual vid cards in sli with 4
monitors with development apps spread all over them!), sluggish response
(open what I have running on my work station and any laptop goes into
crawl mode), heat (if you really run it in your lap as the name infers)
and that just touches on the very start of my list. Yes, I have few
laptops and use them when I 'need' to and one often times goes with me
when I leave my office (but my phone is rapidly replacing that need
unless I'm going for days)... but why on earth would I consider using
only a laptop? Well, if I was always mobile, but I'm not. Maybe if I
didn't need to run any development systems... Eclipse on a laptop
certainly works, but is sluggish vs. a workstation. Open Dreamweaver,
Photoshop, Eclipse, three web browsers a secure shell or few, email, IM,
and then need to open a Word attachment and most laptops chug to worst
than a crawl.

Yes, laptops are more becoming a tool of the trade, but I don't think 1%
is any where near a real number. It 'might' be as high as 50%????
(totally grabbing at the stars saying that).
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