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Old 11-15-2011, 11:56 AM
Timothy Murphy
 
Default Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS (was: What happened to 6.1)

Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:

> Currently, CentOS build system should be in much better shape and we
> will see how it will do for coming 6.2 point release (already in beta).

Thanks very much for that.
I found your account most interesting and informative.

I guess one question that I've never seen raised
is if there has ever been a suggestion that Centos and SL
should combine, or at least work together?
They seem to have exactly the same aim.

I wonder why SL was set up,
rather than offering to help the CentOS team?

I saw statistics - I don't remember where - saying that
CentOS had 30% of the Linux market,
which I found very surprising, though also satsifying (to me).
SL had a tiny share.
(I remember now, it was someone complaining that Fedora's share
was slipping badly.)

I belong to what may be the silent majority
who don't really care if CentOS is absolutely up-to-date.
(As far as I can see, none of the changes in CentOS-6.1
would make the slightest difference to me.
I run CentOS on 3 home servers, and Fedora on my laptops.)

I was very struck by the ease with which I upgraded to CentOS-6,
compared with the nightmare (now hopefully over)
upgrading from Fedora-15 to Fedora-16.
It reminded me why I would never run Fedora on a server.

To me, the reliability and solidity of CentOS are what I relish,
and I'm very grateful to the CentOS team for their work.
I don't mind them getting a bit crotchety at times!




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Old 11-15-2011, 12:56 PM
Timothy Murphy
 
Default Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS (was: What happened to 6.1)

Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:

> Fedora is basically an incubator for new technologies and as such not
> really an attractive system to install for end-users. If you deal with
> servers you probably go with CentOS, SL, Debian, etc. and if you want a
> desktop you probably use Ubuntu.

I don't really agree with this.
If you are using CentOS on servers
it is much easier to use Fedora on laptops,
since Fedora is so similar in operation to CentOS.
In fact CentOS is more or less identical
to an ancient version of Fedora.

Incidentally, I don't really understand
what is meant by the term "desktop" nowadays.
I always think of it as a contrast to laptop.
But isn't everyone today using laptops for everyday use?

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Old 11-15-2011, 07:36 PM
Craig White
 
Default Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS (was: What happened to 6.1)

On Nov 14, 2011, at 7:56 PM, Alan McKay wrote:

>> Both CentOS and Scientific Linux *aim* at 100% binary compatibility
>> and they are both doing their best toward that goal. However, neither
>> is perfect.
>
> That's interesting. So how is it they've managed to come out with 6.1
> (and so long ago at that)?
----
I got the impression that the reason owes to the fact that Scientific Linux is using a koji build server and had it up and running perhaps even before the 6.0 release.

http://lwn.net/Articles/446556/

But in truth, don't trust what the non-invested people might speculate to be the reasons, the real answers can only come from the developers themselves.

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