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Old 08-29-2011, 05:28 PM
Greg Bailey
 
Default rpm and /etc/cron.daily/rpm

On 08/29/2011 09:49 AM, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
> Greg Bailey wrote:
>> On 08/29/2011 08:54 AM, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
>>> The rpm package used to provide
>>> /etc/cron.daily/rpm
>>> /etc/logrotate.d/rpm
>>>
>>> I see /usr/lib/rpm/rpm.log and rpm.daily, which looks like they're
>>> intended for that purpose. Anyone have any idea why they're not in
>>> cron.daily and logrotate.d?
>> Looks like those files are now provided by the "rpm-cron" package in
>> RHEL 6 / CentOS 6.
> Thanks, Greg. Though it seems really dumb and pointless to make a separate
> package just to run something that's already in the rpm package.


Looks like:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500722

has the rationale...

-Greg

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Old 08-29-2011, 05:30 PM
R P Herrold
 
Default rpm and /etc/cron.daily/rpm

On Mon, 29 Aug 2011, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:

> Russ, my fault - I'd crossposted to here and the general RH list. Dunno if
> I should consider filing this as a bug or not with upstream.

yes but, no ... your content was not wild-ass OT political

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Old 08-29-2011, 05:35 PM
Always Learning
 
Default rpm and /etc/cron.daily/rpm

On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 10:28 -0700, Greg Bailey wrote:

> On 08/29/2011 09:49 AM, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:

> >>> I see /usr/lib/rpm/rpm.log and rpm.daily, which looks like they're
> >>> intended for that purpose. Anyone have any idea why they're not in
> >>> cron.daily and logrotate.d?

> Looks like:
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500722
>
> has the rationale...

Quote "rpm requires crontabs in order to drop a cron job in. crontabs
requires cronie, which requires an smtp server. If it weren't for this,
we'd have a better chance at a smtp server less and cron less system."

SMTP on a server seems an ideal transmission method for warning messages
of cron failures etc. Can not understand the logic of stripping the
'rpm' cron part from the cron system. Its only a few bytes on systems of
hundreds or thousands of GB.

Paul.


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Old 08-29-2011, 05:38 PM
Always Learning
 
Default rpm and /etc/cron.daily/rpm

On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 13:30 -0400, R P Herrold wrote:

> yes but, no ... your content was not wild-ass OT political

I'm apolitical with an occasional sense of humour. Which USA party do
you want me to favour? I'll find it difficult to endorse the former
governor of Alaska or the Tea Drinkers.

Paul.


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Old 08-29-2011, 05:42 PM
Les Mikesell
 
Default rpm and /etc/cron.daily/rpm

On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Always Learning <centos@u61.u22.net> wrote:
>
>> >>> I see /usr/lib/rpm/rpm.log and rpm.daily, which looks like they're
>> >>> intended for that purpose. Anyone have any idea why they're not in
>> >>> cron.daily and logrotate.d?
>
>> Looks like:
>>
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500722
>>
>> has the rationale...
>
> Quote "rpm requires crontabs in order to drop a cron job in. *crontabs
> requires cronie, which requires an smtp server. *If it weren't for this,
> we'd have a better chance at a smtp server less and cron less system."
>
> SMTP on a server seems an ideal transmission method for warning messages
> of cron failures etc. Can not understand the logic of stripping the
> 'rpm' cron part from the cron system. Its only a few bytes on systems of
> hundreds or thousands of GB.

I got the impression a long time ago that the people working on fedora
didn't like unix much and wanted to turn the system into something
more like a single-user toy with really, really fast boot time instead
of having a standard set of services that you could always depend on.

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Old 08-30-2011, 06:50 AM
wwp
 
Default rpm and /etc/cron.daily/rpm

Hello Greg,


On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 09:05:34 -0700 Greg Bailey <gbailey@lxpro.com> wrote:

> On 08/29/2011 08:54 AM, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
> > The rpm package used to provide
> > /etc/cron.daily/rpm
> > /etc/logrotate.d/rpm
> >
> > I see /usr/lib/rpm/rpm.log and rpm.daily, which looks like they're
> > intended for that purpose. Anyone have any idea why they're not in
> > cron.daily and logrotate.d?
> >
> >
>
> Looks like those files are now provided by the "rpm-cron" package in
> RHEL 6 / CentOS 6.

And er.. BTW, what is rpm-cron for? Just curious.


Regards,

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