I tried out Scientific Linux 6 Live to see (basically) what I can
expect with CentOS 6 and was pleased to find that everything looks
pretty familiar and is easily customizable to make it look and feel
like 5.6 -- except for one thing that I also noticed in Ubuntu's
newest beta (my Dad uses Linux Mint). For whatever reason, Gnome has
decided to put the Volume Control and Network Manager in the
Notification Applet. (It's worse with Ubuntu, they've put four applets
there by default.) On my desktop I don't display the Network Manager,
but I like the Volume Control to be there (on the very right beside
the clock). I spent most of my "trial time" with SL 6 trying to figure
out how to separate these two applets from the Notification Applet --
without success. Is there a configuration file I can change or a
configuration program I can run to customize this?

I realize it's not a huge deal, but it's an irritant. Why does Gnome
want to limit the ability to customize?

Thanks for any pointers.

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On 04/16/2011 06:34 AM, Ron Blizzard wrote:
[snip]
> the clock). I spent most of my "trial time" with SL 6 trying to figure
> out how to separate these two applets from the Notification Applet --
> without success. Is there a configuration file I can change or a
> configuration program I can run to customize this?

Afaik there is no way to make Gnome applets that make use of the
Notification Area by design to do something outside of the Notification
Area.

> I realize it's not a huge deal, but it's an irritant. Why does Gnome
> want to limit the ability to customize?

If you want the ability to customize everything have a look at KDE.

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Patrick

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> I realize it's not a huge deal, but it's an irritant. Why does Gnome
> want to limit the ability to customize?

Check out Gnome3 then. And weep.


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On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 2:39 AM, Patrick Lists
<centos-list@puzzled.xs4all.nl> wrote:
> On 04/16/2011 06:34 AM, Ron Blizzard wrote:
> [snip]
>> without success. Is there a configuration file I can change or a
>> configuration program I can run to customize this?
>
> Afaik there is no way to make Gnome applets that make use of the
> Notification Area by design to do something outside of the Notification
> Area.

Well... that's not good.

> *> I realize it's not a huge deal, but it's an irritant. Why does Gnome
> *> want to limit the ability to customize?
>
> If you want the ability to customize everything have a look at KDE.

Or maybe XFce.

Thanks.

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On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 6:29 AM, Lars Hecking
<lhecking@users.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>
>> I realize it's not a huge deal, but it's an irritant. Why does Gnome
>> want to limit the ability to customize?
>
> *Check out Gnome3 then. And weep.

Hopefully Red Hat (and CentOS) will continue using Gnome 2.x.x for a
while yet. I don't understand why you would want to take away the
ability to customize. That's one of the main reasons I like Linux.

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Ron Blizzard wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 6:29 AM, Lars Hecking
> <lhecking@users.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>>> I realize it's not a huge deal, but it's an irritant. Why does Gnome
>>> want to limit the ability to customize?
>> Check out Gnome3 then. And weep.
>
> Hopefully Red Hat (and CentOS) will continue using Gnome 2.x.x for a
> while yet. I don't understand why you would want to take away the
> ability to customize. That's one of the main reasons I like Linux.
>
Most likely because of the increasing number of noobs that delete/remove
parts of the panels and then whine helplessly for someone to help them
revert it back to default state.

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Ljubomir Ljubojevic <office@plnet.rs> wrote:

> Most likely because of the increasing number of noobs that delete/remove
> parts of the panels and then whine helplessly for someone to help them
> revert it back to default state.

Yeah, but I wish that wouldn't result in penalizing those that
actually have a clue.

Have a particularly apropos .sig

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On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 14:06:59 -0500
Ron Blizzard <rb4centos@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 2:39 AM, Patrick Lists
> <centos-list@puzzled.xs4all.nl> wrote:
> > On 04/16/2011 06:34 AM, Ron Blizzard wrote:
> > [snip]
> >> without success. Is there a configuration file I can change or a
> >> configuration program I can run to customize this?
> >
> > Afaik there is no way to make Gnome applets that make use of the
> > Notification Area by design to do something outside of the Notification
> > Area.
>
> Well... that's not good.
>
> > *> I realize it's not a huge deal, but it's an irritant. Why does Gnome
> > *> want to limit the ability to customize?
> >
> > If you want the ability to customize everything have a look at KDE.
>
> Or maybe XFce.
>

Even better - fluxbox! Yay!

... I use alsa tools for volume control - I have them tied to keys like
this (and then no need for gnome-volume-control or pulseaudio!):

XF86AudioLowerVolume :ExecCommand (amixer set Master 5%-)
XF86AudioRaiseVolume :ExecCommand (amixer set Master 5%+)
XF86AudioMute :ExecCommand (amixer set Master 0%)

... no, it's not for noobs so be prepared to hack at the configuration
files.




Bob (fluxbox fanboi!)

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On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic <office@plnet.rs> wrote:

> Most likely because of the increasing number of noobs that delete/remove
> *parts of the panels and then whine helplessly for someone to help them
> revert it back to default state.

But there's nothing to keep them removing the Notification Applet --
and when they do that, there's no "Volume Control" or "Network
Manager" or several other applets (in some distributions) in the
applets add-on dialog, so their problem is worse than it was before.

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