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"Jason Pyeron" 07-28-2010 09:05 PM

Hardware freezes on Dell Optiplex 320 while booting(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499204)
 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: centos-bounces@centos.org
> [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Akemi Yagi
> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 15:57
> To: CentOS mailing list
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Hardware freezes on Dell Optiplex 320
> while booting(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499204)
>
> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Jason Pyeron
> <jpyeron@pdinc.us> wrote:
>
> > Boot fedora 13 isolinux disc, choose boot hard disk, launches newer
> > grub installed on centos (WORKS)
> >
> > Installed fedora 13 x86_64 default settings for disk
> layout. *(WORKS)
> >
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499204
> >
> > Looking for advice on getting this hardware to boot unattended.
>
> If I understand the situation correctly, you can boot
> Fedora13 without any extra steps. Then, can you add a stanza
> for CentOS in the F13's grub.conf file and boot from there?
> Or use chainloader if CentOS has grub installed in its partition.

Sounds like a plan. I will learn how to do that, and follow up within the week.
Thanks.


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"Jason Pyeron" 07-28-2010 09:08 PM

Hardware freezes on Dell Optiplex 320 while booting(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499204)
 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: centos-bounces@centos.org
> [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Tom H
> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 16:55
> To: centos@centos.org
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Hardware freezes on Dell Optiplex 320
> while booting(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499204)
>
> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Jason Pyeron
> <jpyeron@pdinc.us> wrote:
> > Steps tried:
> >
> > Install from centos 5.5 x86_64 disc, locks up after reboot at GRUB
> > (FAILS)
> >
> > Boot centos 5.5 x86_64 install drop to shell and chroot (WORKS)
> >
> > Boot fedora 13 isolinux disc, choose boot hard disk,
> launches centos
> > 5.5 grub
> > (WORKS)
> >
> > Compiled and installed grub package from fedora 13 on centos 5.5
> > x86_64 same problem. (FAILS)
> >
> > Boot fedora 13 isolinux disc, choose boot hard disk, launches newer
> > grub installed on centos (WORKS)
> >
> > Installed fedora 13 x86_64 default settings for disk
> layout. *(WORKS)
> >
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499204
> >
> > Looking for advice on getting this hardware to boot unattended.
>
> What does "FAILS" actually mean? I assume that you are only
> getting to the grub menu when booting from an F13 CD and
> chainloading to the CentOS grub.

Thanks for your debugging steps, this has already been confirmed as a BIOS /
grub bug with this dell see the subject for your answer.

I am currently trying to make a workaround which is not invasive on the system
or procedure.

>
> If my assumption about the grub menu is correct, one of your
> grub stages must be broken. Have you tried re-installing grub
> with grub-install or at the grub cli?
>
> What is the output of "fdisk -l", "cat /etc/fstab", and "cat
> /boot/grub/device.map"?
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Tom H 07-29-2010 08:27 PM

Hardware freezes on Dell Optiplex 320 while booting(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499204)
 
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Jason Pyeron <jpyeron@pdinc.us> wrote:
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: centos-bounces@centos.org
>> [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Tom H
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 16:55
>> To: centos@centos.org
>> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Hardware freezes on Dell Optiplex 320
>> while booting(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499204)
>>
>> What does "FAILS" actually mean? I assume that you are only
>> getting to the grub menu when booting from an F13 CD and
>> chainloading to the CentOS grub.
>>
>> If my assumption about the grub menu is correct, one of your
>> grub stages must be broken. Have you tried re-installing grub
>> with grub-install or at the grub cli?
>>
>> What is the output of "fdisk -l", "cat /etc/fstab", and "cat
>> /boot/grub/device.map"?
>
> Thanks for your debugging steps, this has already been confirmed as a BIOS /
> grub bug with this dell see the subject for your answer.
>
> I am currently trying to make a workaround which is not invasive on the system
> or procedure.

You're welcome. I am sorry. I didn't have the time to read the bug url
yesterday. I now have - and have googled away... Amazing!

There seem to be two solutions, replace grub with lilo or grub2,
neither of which conform to your "not invasive on the system or
procedure" requirement.

Akemi Yagi suggested that you install F13 and chainload CentOS. It
sounds nuts but it seems like the right solution to avoid messing with
your default CentOS install - F13 as a bootloader (!). It reminds me
of a colleague who has a Mac and keeps a minimal OSX install to boot
F12 because he couldn't get F12 to work as a single-boot OS.
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Akemi Yagi 07-29-2010 08:39 PM

Hardware freezes on Dell Optiplex 320 while booting(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499204)
 
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Tom H <tomh0665@gmail.com> wrote:

> There seem to be two solutions, replace grub with lilo or grub2,
> neither of which conform to your "not invasive on the system or
> procedure" requirement.
>
> Akemi Yagi suggested that you install F13 and chainload CentOS. It
> sounds nuts but it seems like the right solution to avoid messing with
> your default CentOS install - F13 as a bootloader (!). It reminds me
> of a colleague who has a Mac and keeps a minimal OSX install to boot
> F12 because he couldn't get F12 to work as a single-boot OS.

I myself have one desktop machine that refuses to cooperate with grub
(or should I say grub refuses to cooperate with the hardware?). Long
story short, I installed lilo and decided not to spend more time on
the problem. The machine has been running fine for years... :)

Akemi
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