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Old 02-19-2010, 05:26 PM
chloe K
 
Default mail issue help and need good mail server

Hi

What mail server can prevent incoming mail to repeat downloading to the mail client?

Thank you for your help



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Old 02-19-2010, 05:43 PM
Les Mikesell
 
Default mail issue help and need good mail server

On 2/19/2010 12:26 PM, chloe K wrote:
> Hi
>
> What mail server can prevent incoming mail to repeat downloading to the mail client?

It is usually up to the client what they want to download, how many
times they do it (a user may have different clients and may reconfigure
them to drop and re-add an account, etc.), and when they delete from the
server. I'd be surprised if any servers strictly limit repeat
downloads. On the other hand, any sensible mail client will track the
messages it already has and not download them again. If something is
doing it repeatedly it is probably broken.

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Old 02-19-2010, 06:23 PM
chloe K
 
Default mail issue help and need good mail server

Thank you for your helping

but why user keeps downloading mails what he downloaded before?

I check the mail client setting and it works fine

If it is not server control, any hints about this problem

Thank you



--- On Fri, 2/19/10, Les Mikesell <lesmikesell@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Les Mikesell <lesmikesell@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] mail issue help and need good mail server
> To: centos@centos.org
> Received: Friday, February 19, 2010, 1:43 PM
> On 2/19/2010 12:26 PM, chloe K
> wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > What mail server can prevent incoming mail to repeat
> downloading to the mail client?
>
> It is usually up to the client what they want to download,
> how many
> times they do it (a user may have different clients and may
> reconfigure
> them to drop and re-add an account, etc.), and when they
> delete from the
> server.* I'd be surprised if any servers strictly
> limit repeat
> downloads.* On the other hand, any sensible mail
> client will track the
> messages it already has and not download them again.*
> If something is
> doing it repeatedly it is probably broken.
>
> --
> ***Les Mikesell
> * * lesmikesell@gmail.com
>
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Old 02-19-2010, 06:26 PM
 
Default mail issue help and need good mail server

> Thank you for your helping
>
> but why user keeps downloading mails what he downloaded before?
>
> I check the mail client setting and it works fine
>
> If it is not server control, any hints about this problem
>
Here's one example: me. When I'm not at home, I read my email via webmail.
I could, I suppose, d/l it *without* deleting from the server. Then, when
I get home, I fire up t-bird, and d/l all my mail, this time deleting it.

I might assume that some folks d/l frequently, but do not delete from the
server, thus saving space on their own system, but storing everything on
the server.

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Old 02-19-2010, 06:34 PM
John Plemons
 
Default mail issue help and need good mail server

What mail client are you using?

My people use Thunderbird, it keeps track of the emails that it has
downloaded and doesn't download again...

I had this problems years ago with earlier versions, but only at random
and on different clients and at different time, it was unrepeatable..

John


On 2/19/2010 2:23 PM, chloe K wrote:
> Thank you for your helping
>
> but why user keeps downloading mails what he downloaded before?
>
> I check the mail client setting and it works fine
>
> If it is not server control, any hints about this problem
>
> Thank you
>
>
>
> --- On Fri, 2/19/10, Les Mikesell<lesmikesell@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> From: Les Mikesell<lesmikesell@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [CentOS] mail issue help and need good mail server
>> To: centos@centos.org
>> Received: Friday, February 19, 2010, 1:43 PM
>> On 2/19/2010 12:26 PM, chloe K
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> What mail server can prevent incoming mail to repeat
>>>
>> downloading to the mail client?
>>
>> It is usually up to the client what they want to download,
>> how many
>> times they do it (a user may have different clients and may
>> reconfigure
>> them to drop and re-add an account, etc.), and when they
>> delete from the
>> server. I'd be surprised if any servers strictly
>> limit repeat
>> downloads. On the other hand, any sensible mail
>> client will track the
>> messages it already has and not download them again.
>> If something is
>> doing it repeatedly it is probably broken.
>>
>> --
>> Les Mikesell
>> lesmikesell@gmail.com
>>
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>> http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
>>
>>
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Old 02-19-2010, 06:36 PM
Larry Vaden
 
Default mail issue help and need good mail server

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 1:23 PM, chloe K <chloekcy2000@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> Thank you for your helping
>
> but why user keeps downloading mails what he downloaded before?
>
> I check the mail client setting and it works fine
>
> If it is not server control, any hints about this problem

Most pop3 servers will start from the beginning of a mailbox; if the
last download of mail was not completely successful (from start of
mailbox to end of mailbox), you get the situation you describe if I
understand your comments.

e.g., a customer on dialup that receives a 10 MB email message, can't
download it, and tries again.

kind regards/ldv
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Old 02-19-2010, 06:54 PM
Alan Hodgson
 
Default mail issue help and need good mail server

On Friday 19 February 2010, chloe K <chloekcy2000@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> Thank you for your helping
>
> but why user keeps downloading mails what he downloaded before?
>
> I check the mail client setting and it works fine
>
> If it is not server control, any hints about this problem


It's possible that the client is having trouble downloading one particular
message and that's causing it to repeat all the downloads (this used to
happen a lot with pop-3 clients). Find and delete the offending message and
the problem should be solved.

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Old 02-19-2010, 06:56 PM
Rob Kampen
 
Default mail issue help and need good mail server

m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:

Thank you for your helping

but why user keeps downloading mails what he downloaded before?

I check the mail client setting and it works fine

If it is not server control, any hints about this problem



Here's one example: me. When I'm not at home, I read my email via webmail.
I could, I suppose, d/l it *without* deleting from the server. Then, when
I get home, I fire up t-bird, and d/l all my mail, this time deleting it.

I might assume that some folks d/l frequently, but do not delete from the
server, thus saving space on their own system, but storing everything on
the server.


Are you talking about IMAP or POP3 - they behave differently. With POP
each client location has to download and choose to keep original on
server, otherwise only one client can see the email. With IMAP one has
the option to see the headers and by default leaves the server as the
master. This does put more traffic on an IMAP server as a rule, but I
use IMAP in preference if possible so that I can access emails via my
iPhone and my T-bird clients, but only deal with mail once.

HTH

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Old 02-19-2010, 07:06 PM
Kevin Kempter
 
Default mail issue help and need good mail server

> Hi
>
> What mail server can prevent incoming mail to repeat downloading to the
> mail client?
>
> Thank you for your help
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________ ________________
> Connect with friends from any web browser - no download required. Try the
> new Yahoo! Canada Messenger for the Web BETA at
> http://ca.messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php
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> CentOS mailing list
> CentOS@centos.org
> http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
>

I use a service from www.fusemail.com. It's worked quite nicely for my and our
small company. I've setup multiple email accounts and they all gel pulled
into the same inbox at my fusemail account. I've setup multiple folders and
rules to segregate the various email accounts, mailing lists, etc. I use an
IMAP connection for my mail client, so any actions I take on the web interface
(away from my laptop) such as deleting emails, creating new folders, etc are
automatically reflected in my mail client (in my case Kmail) the next time I
connect. Thus, if I delete messages from the web interface then my mail client
never tries to download those same messages, and if my client has already
pulled them then they simply disappear on the next check.


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Old 02-19-2010, 07:44 PM
Les Mikesell
 
Default mail issue help and need good mail server

On 2/19/2010 1:56 PM, Rob Kampen wrote:
> m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
>>> Thank you for your helping
>>>
>>> but why user keeps downloading mails what he downloaded before?
>>>
>>> I check the mail client setting and it works fine
>>>
>>> If it is not server control, any hints about this problem
>>>
>> Here's one example: me. When I'm not at home, I read my email via
>> webmail.
>> I could, I suppose, d/l it *without* deleting from the server. Then, when
>> I get home, I fire up t-bird, and d/l all my mail, this time deleting it.
>>
>> I might assume that some folks d/l frequently, but do not delete from the
>> server, thus saving space on their own system, but storing everything on
>> the server.
>>
> Are you talking about IMAP or POP3 - they behave differently. With POP
> each client location has to download and choose to keep original on
> server, otherwise only one client can see the email. With IMAP one has
> the option to see the headers and by default leaves the server as the
> master. This does put more traffic on an IMAP server as a rule, but I
> use IMAP in preference if possible so that I can access emails via my
> iPhone and my T-bird clients, but only deal with mail once.

Yes, if the client in question is using pop, switching to imap is
probably a good idea. There is an option in tbird (and probably others)
for whether to download all the messages or wait till you read them.

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