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Old 12-07-2009, 09:56 PM
Paul Johnson
 
Default how to find last updates for Centos 5.3?

I'm setting up a Rocks Cluster Linux system
<http://www.rocksclusters.org> using Centos 5.3 as the OS. Rocks is
an organizing framework for multi node systems, it tries to
orchestrate kickstart installs across many systems and interaction
among those many systems as a compute cluster.

One problem with administering these systems is that the OS updates
can break the Rocks framework. I've tried Rocks with Centos5.4, but
there is some incompatability. The Rocks system is based on Centos
5.2, it tolerates 5.3, but not 5.4. The Rocks experts seem to
discourage us from making any RPM package updates, but I'm
adventuresome enough to think that I can at least try to make some
selective updates.

I wish I had access to a Centos update folder AS IT EXISTED before
Centos 5.4 was released. The last update set that applied to 5.3,in
other words. But I can't figure how to get that, because Centos
servers just have the current updates under a folder marked 5. If I
try to update against the current 5 server, it will pull in lots and
lots of new RPMS from the Centos base, and I don't want that.

I can't afford the risk of updating against the current Centos
offerings because Rocks might not work anymore, or so I'm told by the
Rocks experts.

Any ideas about how to go back in time and get the last 5.3 update batch??

pj

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Old 12-07-2009, 10:00 PM
Alan McKay
 
Default how to find last updates for Centos 5.3?

> I wish I had access to a Centos update folder AS IT EXISTED before
> Centos 5.4 was released. *The last update set that applied to 5.3,in
> other words.

Crap, I just removed one with no backups.



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Old 12-07-2009, 10:01 PM
Alan McKay
 
Default how to find last updates for Centos 5.3?

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Alan McKay <alan.mckay@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I wish I had access to a Centos update folder AS IT EXISTED before
>> Centos 5.4 was released. *The last update set that applied to 5.3,in
>> other words.
>
> Crap, I just removed one with no backups.

Actually, nope, I still have a copy. All 18G of it.

Not sure what would be the best way to get it to you if you cannot
find it elsewhere.


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Old 12-07-2009, 10:03 PM
Lars Hecking
 
Default how to find last updates for Centos 5.3?

> Any ideas about how to go back in time and get the last 5.3 update batch??

Grab a copy of centos/5.3/updates along with centos/5.3/os from your
nearest CentOS mirror and set up your own local repository.


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Old 12-07-2009, 10:03 PM
R P Herrold
 
Default how to find last updates for Centos 5.3?

On Mon, 7 Dec 2009, Alan McKay wrote:

>> I wish I had access to a Centos update folder AS IT EXISTED before
>> Centos 5.4 was released. *The last update set that applied to 5.3,in
>> other words.
>
> Crap, I just removed one with no backups.

and 1) as it was partially inconsistent with upstream, and
prior practice, as some items were pushed 'early' compared to
prior release processes, and
2) since vault.centos.org has all, with datestamps to
permit building any particular point in time variant,

... this is important just how?

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Old 12-07-2009, 10:06 PM
Greg Bailey
 
Default how to find last updates for Centos 5.3?

Paul Johnson wrote:
> I wish I had access to a Centos update folder AS IT EXISTED before
> Centos 5.4 was released. The last update set that applied to 5.3,in
> other words. But I can't figure how to get that, because Centos
> servers just have the current updates under a folder marked 5. If I
> try to update against the current 5 server, it will pull in lots and
> lots of new RPMS from the Centos base, and I don't want that.
>
> Any ideas about how to go back in time and get the last 5.3 update batch??
>
> pj
>
>

Looks like the mirror sites still have the 5.3 updates at (for x86):

http://mirror.centos.org/centos/5.3/updates/i386/RPMS/

so I imagine you could manually edit the
/etc/yum.repos.d/CentOS-Base.repo file and put "5.3" in there explicitly.

Usually, though, old versions like 5.3 are eventually removed from the
regular mirror servers and moved to the "vault" site, where you'd be
able to access it via:

http://vault.centos.org/5.3/

once it's moved there (not populated at present).

-Greg

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Old 12-07-2009, 10:12 PM
John R Pierce
 
Default how to find last updates for Centos 5.3?

Lars Hecking wrote:
>> Any ideas about how to go back in time and get the last 5.3 update batch??
>>
>
> Grab a copy of centos/5.3/updates along with centos/5.3/os from your
> nearest CentOS mirror and set up your own local repository.
>

thats been purged from the mirrors.


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Old 12-07-2009, 10:19 PM
Brian Mathis
 
Default how to find last updates for Centos 5.3?

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 6:12 PM, John R Pierce <pierce@hogranch.com> wrote:
> Lars Hecking wrote:
>>> Any ideas about how to go back in time and get the last 5.3 update batch??
>>>
>>
>> *Grab a copy of centos/5.3/updates along with centos/5.3/os from your
>> *nearest CentOS mirror and set up your own local repository.
>>
>
> that's been purged from the mirrors.
>


Not true, and it's the thing that's most irritating about this policy.
The RPMs are still there, just not the sqlite repodata files that yum
needs. So if you got to a mirror, you can see all of the files, but
yum doesn't work.

The only way is to make your own repo. You need to mirror the files
you want, then install "createrepo". After you've got that installed:
cd centos/5.3
for dir in */x86_64/ */i386/
do
createrepo --database $dir
done

Then you can make a new repo file in /etc/yum.repos.d pointing to your
new location.
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Old 12-07-2009, 10:21 PM
Brian Mathis
 
Default how to find last updates for Centos 5.3?

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 6:03 PM, R P Herrold <herrold@centos.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Dec 2009, Alan McKay wrote:
>
>>> I wish I had access to a Centos update folder AS IT EXISTED before
>>> Centos 5.4 was released. *The last update set that applied to 5.3,in
>>> other words.
>>
>> Crap, I just removed one with no backups.
>
> and 1) as it was partially inconsistent with upstream, and
> prior practice, as some items were pushed 'early' compared to
> prior release processes, and
> * * 2) since vault.centos.org *has all, with datestamps to
> permit building any particular point in time variant,
>
> ... this is important just how?
>
> -- Russ herrold

2) 5.3 is NOT on the vault.

3) This is important for the reasons the OP described in his post.
Just because you may already know the answer does not make it
unimportant to the OP.
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Old 12-07-2009, 10:25 PM
Karanbir Singh
 
Default how to find last updates for Centos 5.3?

On 07/12/09 23:19, Brian Mathis wrote:
> Not true, and it's the thing that's most irritating about this policy.
> The RPMs are still there, just not the sqlite repodata files that yum
> needs. So if you got to a mirror, you can see all of the files, but
> yum doesn't work.


well, Brian - you seem to be looking in the wrong place, also you are
mistaken about requirements for sqlite data. So, here is where it stands:

5.3 has not been moved to vault.c.o as yet, due to disk space issues, we
should have that resolved in the next few weeks. Once its moved, it will
exist there for as long as we are able to keep it ( we still have all of
2.1 / 3.* / 4.* and 5.* so far )

all metadata for 5.3 is still available in the right place. eg:
http://mirror.centos.org/centos/5.3/updates/i386/repodata/
http://mirror.centos.org/centos/5.3/os/i386/repodata/

Every release ever done by CentOS stays public, and we make every effort
to keep atleast the binary and source files available ( so this
best-effort-warranty does not extend to debuginfo pkgs ).

hth

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