I know a lot of you are using IPCop where you work. They have three
(3) updates posted, during the past two (2) days. The last one, I'm
getting an error, when I try to Download it, and I will report that to
the IPCop list or bugzilla after I send this message.
"No such file or directory
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/ipcop/ipcop-1.4.21-update.i386.tgz.gpg?download"

The problem I was having, after the huge update to 5.2, with the
Evolution Calendar (which I do not use) crashing, when I exited from
Evolution, has almost
completely disappeared. One or more of the updates since the huge
update eliminated most of that problem. It seems to only happen now
when I am going
to log out of my Desktop or shut it down and only rarely.
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On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Lanny Marcus <lmmailinglists@gmail.com> wrote:
> I know a lot of you are using IPCop where you work. They have three
> (3) updates posted, during the past two (2) days. The last one, I'm
> getting an error, when I try to Download it, and I will report that to
> the IPCop list or bugzilla after I send this message.
> "No such file or directory
> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/ipcop/ipcop-1.4.21-update.i386.tgz.gpg?download"

Follow on: That has been fixed. I got the 1.4.21 update and it is installed.


> The problem I was having, after the huge update to 5.2, with the
> Evolution Calendar (which I do not use) crashing, when I exited from
> Evolution, has almost
> completely disappeared. One or more of the updates since the huge
> update eliminated most of that problem. It seems to only happen now
> when I am going
> to log out of my Desktop or shut it down and only rarely.
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on 7-24-2008 2:41 PM Lanny Marcus spake the following:

I know a lot of you are using IPCop where you work. They have three
(3) updates posted, during the past two (2) days. The last one, I'm
getting an error, when I try to Download it, and I will report that to
the IPCop list or bugzilla after I send this message.
"No such file or directory
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/ipcop/ipcop-1.4.21-update.i386.tgz.gpg?download"
Sometimes their updates take a while to hit the mirrors. I don't think they
delay the announcements until the mirrors are synced.


The problem I was having, after the huge update to 5.2, with the
Evolution Calendar (which I do not use) crashing, when I exited from
Evolution, has almost
completely disappeared. One or more of the updates since the huge
update eliminated most of that problem. It seems to only happen now
when I am going
to log out of my Desktop or shut it down and only rarely.



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On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Scott Silva <ssilva@sgvwater.com> wrote:
> on 7-24-2008 2:41 PM Lanny Marcus spake the following:
>>
>> I know a lot of you are using IPCop where you work. They have three
>> (3) updates posted, during the past two (2) days. The last one, I'm
>> getting an error, when I try to Download it, and I will report that to
>> the IPCop list or bugzilla after I send this message.
>> "No such file or directory
>>
>> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/ipcop/ipcop-1.4.21-update.i386.tgz.gpg?download"
>
> Sometimes their updates take a while to hit the mirrors. I don't think they
> delay the announcements until the mirrors are synced.
<snip>
Scott: After I posted that, a few minutes later, it was working and I
posted a follow up here that it's working OK. Lanny
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on 7-24-2008 4:18 PM Lanny Marcus spake the following:

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Scott Silva <ssilva-m4n3GYAQT2lWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote:

on 7-24-2008 2:41 PM Lanny Marcus spake the following:

I know a lot of you are using IPCop where you work. They have three
(3) updates posted, during the past two (2) days. The last one, I'm
getting an error, when I try to Download it, and I will report that to
the IPCop list or bugzilla after I send this message.
"No such file or directory

http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/ipcop/ipcop-1.4.21-update.i386.tgz.gpg?download"

Sometimes their updates take a while to hit the mirrors. I don't think they
delay the announcements until the mirrors are synced.

<snip>
Scott: After I posted that, a few minutes later, it was working and I
posted a follow up here that it's working OK. Lanny

Yeah... Those always show up right after you hit "send" don't they?


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On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 6:29 PM, Scott Silva <ssilva@sgvwater.com> wrote:
> on 7-24-2008 4:18 PM Lanny Marcus spake the following:
>> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Scott Silva
>> <ssilva-m4n3GYAQT2lWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>> on 7-24-2008 2:41 PM Lanny Marcus spake the following:
>>>>
>>>> I know a lot of you are using IPCop where you work. They have three
>>>> (3) updates posted, during the past two (2) days. The last one, I'm
>>>> getting an error, when I try to Download it, and I will report that to
>>>> the IPCop list or bugzilla after I send this message.
>>>> "No such file or directory
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/ipcop/ipcop-1.4.21-update.i386.tgz.gpg?download"
>>>
>>> Sometimes their updates take a while to hit the mirrors. I don't think
>>> they
>>> delay the announcements until the mirrors are synced.
>>
>> <snip>
>> Scott: After I posted that, a few minutes later, it was working and I
>> posted a follow up here that it's working OK. Lanny
>
> Yeah... Those always show up right after you hit "send" don't they?

In this case, it was about 7 minutes later. I know you are one of the
people on this list who use IPCop at work. One of the 3 updates
requires a reboot for the updated kernel. I told my wife and daughter
they were going to lose connectivity for several minutes. At work, you
do the reboot at 3 A.M. or you have users who are furious, or you
send them a message the network is going down temporarily?

The phone company replaced our ADSL Modem and with the change to
opendns.com our Internet service is working *much* better. :-)
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on 7-24-2008 5:36 PM Lanny Marcus spake the following:

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 6:29 PM, Scott Silva <ssilva-m4n3GYAQT2lWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote:

on 7-24-2008 4:18 PM Lanny Marcus spake the following:

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Scott Silva
<ssilva@sgvwater.com> wrote:

on 7-24-2008 2:41 PM Lanny Marcus spake the following:

I know a lot of you are using IPCop where you work. They have three
(3) updates posted, during the past two (2) days. The last one, I'm
getting an error, when I try to Download it, and I will report that to
the IPCop list or bugzilla after I send this message.
"No such file or directory


http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/ipcop/ipcop-1.4.21-update.i386.tgz.gpg?download"

Sometimes their updates take a while to hit the mirrors. I don't think
they
delay the announcements until the mirrors are synced.

<snip>
Scott: After I posted that, a few minutes later, it was working and I
posted a follow up here that it's working OK. Lanny

Yeah... Those always show up right after you hit "send" don't they?


In this case, it was about 7 minutes later. I know you are one of the
people on this list who use IPCop at work. One of the 3 updates
requires a reboot for the updated kernel. I told my wife and daughter
they were going to lose connectivity for several minutes. At work, you
do the reboot at 3 A.M. or you have users who are furious, or you
send them a message the network is going down temporarily?

The phone company replaced our ADSL Modem and with the change to
opendns.com our Internet service is working *much* better. :-)
I usually have to do updates like that on the weekends, as I can't depend on a
3AM reboot to be up in the morning when Exec's are in. A reboot I trust, but
not the first one after a kernel change. On a weekend I can drive in and see
what happened if necessary and switch to a backup router.
In our main office I have 2 running side by side and I can log in to the T1
router and change switch ports to swap them. Then a reboot on the router to
hasten the MAC changeover. Usually 5 minutes tops.


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On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Scott Silva <ssilva@sgvwater.com> wrote:
> on 7-24-2008 5:36 PM Lanny Marcus spake the following:
<snip>
> At work, you
>> do the reboot at 3 A.M. or you have users who are furious, or you
>> send them a message the network is going down temporarily?
>>
>
> I usually have to do updates like that on the weekends, as I can't depend on
> a 3AM reboot to be up in the morning when Exec's are in. A reboot I trust,
> but not the first one after a kernel change. On a weekend I can drive in and
> see what happened if necessary and switch to a backup router.
> In our main office I have 2 running side by side and I can log in to the T1
> router and change switch ports to swap them. Then a reboot on the router to
> hasten the MAC changeover. Usually 5 minutes tops.

Thank you for the explanation! I wondered, if you would trust it, to
come back up, if you scheduled a reboot for 3 A.M.
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on 7-26-2008 1:05 PM Lanny Marcus spake the following:

On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Scott Silva <ssilva-m4n3GYAQT2lWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote:

on 7-24-2008 5:36 PM Lanny Marcus spake the following:

<snip>

At work, you

do the reboot at 3 A.M. or you have users who are furious, or you
send them a message the network is going down temporarily?


I usually have to do updates like that on the weekends, as I can't depend on
a 3AM reboot to be up in the morning when Exec's are in. A reboot I trust,
but not the first one after a kernel change. On a weekend I can drive in and
see what happened if necessary and switch to a backup router.
In our main office I have 2 running side by side and I can log in to the T1
router and change switch ports to swap them. Then a reboot on the router to
hasten the MAC changeover. Usually 5 minutes tops.


Thank you for the explanation! I wondered, if you would trust it, to
come back up, if you scheduled a reboot for 3 A.M.


I just had a perfect example this morning. One of the routers didn't come back
up after the upgrades and remote reboot yesterday. I had to have someone at
the site powercycle the equipment. Still much easier than having to drive over
there myself.




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On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Scott Silva <ssilva@sgvwater.com> wrote:
<snip>
>>> I usually have to do updates like that on the weekends, as I can't depend
>>> on
>>> a 3AM reboot to be up in the morning when Exec's are in. A reboot I
>>> trust,
>>> but not the first one after a kernel change. On a weekend I can drive in
>>> and
>>> see what happened if necessary and switch to a backup router.
>>> In our main office I have 2 running side by side and I can log in to the
>>> T1
>>> router and change switch ports to swap them. Then a reboot on the router
>>> to
>>> hasten the MAC changeover. Usually 5 minutes tops.
>>
>> Thank you for the explanation! I wondered, if you would trust it, to
>> come back up, if you scheduled a reboot for 3 A.M.
>
> I just had a perfect example this morning. One of the routers didn't come
> back up after the upgrades and remote reboot yesterday. I had to have
> someone at the site powercycle the equipment. Still much easier than having
> to drive over there myself.

Good that you are very conservative and do not leave the executives without
Internet access! :-) I updated our backup IPCop box yesterday. Our IPCop
box and our ADSL modem are choke points. The ADSL modem is the
only thing we have that we don't have a backup for.
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