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Old 07-11-2008, 04:30 PM
Ray Van Dolson
 
Default Is there a FC8 update repo out there?

> How do I find out if Python 2.4.3 contains abi?

I'm not sure what you're asking. Python's ABI version would be 2.4.3,
but if you're referring to a module 'abi', I don't think one exists?

You can always fire up python and type 'import <modulename>' to see if
that module exists.

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Old 07-11-2008, 05:08 PM
Steve Huff
 
Default Is there a FC8 update repo out there?

On Jul 11, 2008, at 12:07 PM, Ray Van Dolson wrote:


I'm not sure if there's a "great" way to have concurrent version of
Python installed cleanly or not... the Python project itself used to
maintain some RPM's and a Yum repo, but I believe that project is
somewhat dormant and last time I tried it it still wasn't a real
smooth

process.



sounds like you're referring to PyVault (http://www.python.org/
pyvault/). unfortunately, there is not yet a distribution for CentOS 5.


i remember having some degree of success with the PyVault RPMs for
CentOS 3, though.


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Old 07-11-2008, 05:13 PM
Robert Moskowitz
 
Default Is there a FC8 update repo out there?

Ray Van Dolson wrote:

How do I find out if Python 2.4.3 contains abi?



I'm not sure what you're asking. Python's ABI version would be 2.4.3,
but if you're referring to a module 'abi', I don't think one exists?

You can always fire up python and type 'import <modulename>' to see if
that module exists.
Well no such module exists in either 2.4.3 or 2.5.1, so what is being
complained about in the yum install below? Only that python v2.5 is
needed? (I have been trying to get my colleague to either set me up to
compile the source or for him to build a Centos host to do it himself).


yum localinstall hip*
Loading "fastestmirror" plugin
Loading "priorities" plugin
Setting up Local Package Process
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
* rpmforge: fr2.rpmfind.net
* base: medon.htt-consult.com
* updates: medon.htt-consult.com
* addons: mirror.steadfast.net
* extras: pubmirrors.reflected.net
272 packages excluded due to repository priority protections
Examining hipl-agent-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm: hipl-agent - 1.0.4-1.i386
Examining hipl-daemon-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm: hipl-daemon - 1.0.4-1.i386
Examining hipl-debuginfo-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm: hipl-debuginfo - 1.0.4-1.i386
Examining hipl-doc-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm: hipl-doc - 1.0.4-1.i386
Examining hipl-firewall-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm: hipl-firewall - 1.0.4-1.i386
Examining hipl-lib-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm: hipl-lib - 1.0.4-1.i386
Examining hipl-test-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm: hipl-test - 1.0.4-1.i386
Examining hipl-tools-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm: hipl-tools - 1.0.4-1.i386
Marking hipl-agent-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm to be installed
Marking hipl-daemon-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm to be installed
Marking hipl-debuginfo-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm to be installed
Marking hipl-doc-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm to be installed
Marking hipl-firewall-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm to be installed
Marking hipl-lib-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm to be installed
Marking hipl-test-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm to be installed
Marking hipl-tools-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm to be installed
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package hipl-doc.i386 0:1.0.4-1 set to be updated
---> Package hipl-tools.i386 0:1.0.4-1 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: python(abi) = 2.5 for package: hipl-tools
---> Package hipl-firewall.i386 0:1.0.4-1 set to be updated
---> Package hipl-lib.i386 0:1.0.4-1 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: python(abi) = 2.5 for package: hipl-lib
---> Package hipl-agent.i386 0:1.0.4-1 set to be updated
---> Package hipl-debuginfo.i386 0:1.0.4-1 set to be updated
---> Package hipl-test.i386 0:1.0.4-1 set to be updated
---> Package hipl-daemon.i386 0:1.0.4-1 set to be updated
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
Error: Missing Dependency: python(abi) = 2.5 is needed by package hipl-lib
Error: Missing Dependency: python(abi) = 2.5 is needed by package hipl-tools


BTW, if you are interested, this is the hipl implementation of the HIP
protocol.



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Old 07-11-2008, 11:22 PM
Scott Silva
 
Default Is there a FC8 update repo out there?

on 7-11-2008 10:13 AM Robert Moskowitz spake the following:

Ray Van Dolson wrote:

How do I find out if Python 2.4.3 contains abi?



I'm not sure what you're asking. Python's ABI version would be 2.4.3,
but if you're referring to a module 'abi', I don't think one exists?

You can always fire up python and type 'import <modulename>' to see if
that module exists.
Well no such module exists in either 2.4.3 or 2.5.1, so what is being
complained about in the yum install below? Only that python v2.5 is
needed? (I have been trying to get my colleague to either set me up to
compile the source or for him to build a Centos host to do it himself).

<snip>


BTW, if you are interested, this is the hipl implementation of the HIP
protocol.

ABI is the Application Binary Interface. It is not a module.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_binary_interface

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Old 07-12-2008, 12:23 AM
Johnny Hughes
 
Default Is there a FC8 update repo out there?

Robert Moskowitz wrote:

Ray Van Dolson wrote:

How do I find out if Python 2.4.3 contains abi?



I'm not sure what you're asking. Python's ABI version would be 2.4.3,
but if you're referring to a module 'abi', I don't think one exists?

You can always fire up python and type 'import <modulename>' to see if
that module exists.
Well no such module exists in either 2.4.3 or 2.5.1, so what is being
complained about in the yum install below? Only that python v2.5 is
needed? (I have been trying to get my colleague to either set me up to
compile the source or for him to build a Centos host to do it himself).


yum localinstall hip*
Loading "fastestmirror" plugin
Loading "priorities" plugin
Setting up Local Package Process
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
* rpmforge: fr2.rpmfind.net
* base: medon.htt-consult.com
* updates: medon.htt-consult.com
* addons: mirror.steadfast.net
* extras: pubmirrors.reflected.net
272 packages excluded due to repository priority protections
Examining hipl-agent-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm: hipl-agent - 1.0.4-1.i386
Examining hipl-daemon-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm: hipl-daemon - 1.0.4-1.i386
Examining hipl-debuginfo-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm: hipl-debuginfo - 1.0.4-1.i386
Examining hipl-doc-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm: hipl-doc - 1.0.4-1.i386
Examining hipl-firewall-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm: hipl-firewall - 1.0.4-1.i386
Examining hipl-lib-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm: hipl-lib - 1.0.4-1.i386
Examining hipl-test-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm: hipl-test - 1.0.4-1.i386
Examining hipl-tools-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm: hipl-tools - 1.0.4-1.i386
Marking hipl-agent-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm to be installed
Marking hipl-daemon-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm to be installed
Marking hipl-debuginfo-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm to be installed
Marking hipl-doc-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm to be installed
Marking hipl-firewall-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm to be installed
Marking hipl-lib-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm to be installed
Marking hipl-test-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm to be installed
Marking hipl-tools-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm to be installed
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package hipl-doc.i386 0:1.0.4-1 set to be updated
---> Package hipl-tools.i386 0:1.0.4-1 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: python(abi) = 2.5 for package: hipl-tools
---> Package hipl-firewall.i386 0:1.0.4-1 set to be updated
---> Package hipl-lib.i386 0:1.0.4-1 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: python(abi) = 2.5 for package: hipl-lib
---> Package hipl-agent.i386 0:1.0.4-1 set to be updated
---> Package hipl-debuginfo.i386 0:1.0.4-1 set to be updated
---> Package hipl-test.i386 0:1.0.4-1 set to be updated
---> Package hipl-daemon.i386 0:1.0.4-1 set to be updated
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
Error: Missing Dependency: python(abi) = 2.5 is needed by package hipl-lib
Error: Missing Dependency: python(abi) = 2.5 is needed by package
hipl-tools



BTW, if you are interested, this is the hipl implementation of the HIP
protocol.


It looks like those RPMS are not built for CentOS-5 ... but were instead
built against a version of linux with a newer version of python installed.


You can't install FC8 packages (for example) directly on CentOS-5 ...
all the shared libraries are different, so the required things will not
exist.


depending on the item in question, you might be able to BUILD it from
the sources on CentOS-5 and then use it ... I have no idea what hipl is
or does.


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Old 07-12-2008, 02:08 AM
Ray Van Dolson
 
Default Is there a FC8 update repo out there?

> Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> > yum localinstall hip*
> > Loading "fastestmirror" plugin
> > Loading "priorities" plugin
> > Setting up Local Package Process
> > Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
> > * rpmforge: fr2.rpmfind.net
> > * base: medon.htt-consult.com
> > * updates: medon.htt-consult.com
> > * addons: mirror.steadfast.net
> > * extras: pubmirrors.reflected.net
> > 272 packages excluded due to repository priority protections
> > Examining hipl-agent-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm: hipl-agent - 1.0.4-1.i386

Yeah, what is this hipl package?

http://infrahip.hiit.fi/index.php?index=home

Is that it? Although yours seems to be newer and has additional
packages. Do they provide a src rpm which you could then just rebuild
against CentOS 5?

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Old 07-13-2008, 03:25 AM
Robert Moskowitz
 
Default Is there a FC8 update repo out there?

Johnny Hughes wrote:

Robert Moskowitz wrote:

Ray Van Dolson wrote:

How do I find out if Python 2.4.3 contains abi?



I'm not sure what you're asking. Python's ABI version would be 2.4.3,
but if you're referring to a module 'abi', I don't think one exists?

You can always fire up python and type 'import <modulename>' to see if
that module exists.
Well no such module exists in either 2.4.3 or 2.5.1, so what is being
complained about in the yum install below? Only that python v2.5 is
needed? (I have been trying to get my colleague to either set me up
to compile the source or for him to build a Centos host to do it
himself).


yum localinstall hip*
Loading "fastestmirror" plugin
Loading "priorities" plugin
Setting up Local Package Process
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
* rpmforge: fr2.rpmfind.net
* base: medon.htt-consult.com
* updates: medon.htt-consult.com
* addons: mirror.steadfast.net
* extras: pubmirrors.reflected.net
272 packages excluded due to repository priority protections
Examining hipl-agent-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm: hipl-agent - 1.0.4-1.i386
Examining hipl-daemon-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm: hipl-daemon - 1.0.4-1.i386
Examining hipl-debuginfo-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm: hipl-debuginfo - 1.0.4-1.i386
Examining hipl-doc-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm: hipl-doc - 1.0.4-1.i386
Examining hipl-firewall-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm: hipl-firewall - 1.0.4-1.i386
Examining hipl-lib-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm: hipl-lib - 1.0.4-1.i386
Examining hipl-test-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm: hipl-test - 1.0.4-1.i386
Examining hipl-tools-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm: hipl-tools - 1.0.4-1.i386
Marking hipl-agent-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm to be installed
Marking hipl-daemon-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm to be installed
Marking hipl-debuginfo-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm to be installed
Marking hipl-doc-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm to be installed
Marking hipl-firewall-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm to be installed
Marking hipl-lib-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm to be installed
Marking hipl-test-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm to be installed
Marking hipl-tools-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm to be installed
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package hipl-doc.i386 0:1.0.4-1 set to be updated
---> Package hipl-tools.i386 0:1.0.4-1 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: python(abi) = 2.5 for package: hipl-tools
---> Package hipl-firewall.i386 0:1.0.4-1 set to be updated
---> Package hipl-lib.i386 0:1.0.4-1 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: python(abi) = 2.5 for package: hipl-lib
---> Package hipl-agent.i386 0:1.0.4-1 set to be updated
---> Package hipl-debuginfo.i386 0:1.0.4-1 set to be updated
---> Package hipl-test.i386 0:1.0.4-1 set to be updated
---> Package hipl-daemon.i386 0:1.0.4-1 set to be updated
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
Error: Missing Dependency: python(abi) = 2.5 is needed by package
hipl-lib
Error: Missing Dependency: python(abi) = 2.5 is needed by package
hipl-tools



BTW, if you are interested, this is the hipl implementation of the
HIP protocol.


It looks like those RPMS are not built for CentOS-5 ... but were
instead built against a version of linux with a newer version of
python installed.
They were built against FC8. My colleague has given me source compile
instructions:


you can get the sources either via version control or the nightly tarball:

wget http://hipl.hiit.fi/hipl/hipl.tar.gz

you can build on CentOS by executing:

tar xvzf hipl.tar.gz
cd hipl--main--2.6
./autogen.sh
./configure
make rpm

("make install" works too, but installs to /usr/local by default)

Software requirements are listed here:

http://infrahip.hiit.fi/hipl/manual/ch02.html


You can't install FC8 packages (for example) directly on CentOS-5 ...
all the shared libraries are different, so the required things will
not exist.
So I have learned. I really expected this, but my colleague was away
and pointed me to his FC8 build.


depending on the item in question, you might be able to BUILD it from
the sources on CentOS-5 and then use it ... I have no idea what hipl
is or does.

RFCs 4423 and 5201-5207

Read the charter at: http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/hip-charter.html

Note the author of this protocol...


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Old 07-13-2008, 03:27 AM
Robert Moskowitz
 
Default Is there a FC8 update repo out there?

Ray Van Dolson wrote:

Robert Moskowitz wrote:


yum localinstall hip*
Loading "fastestmirror" plugin
Loading "priorities" plugin
Setting up Local Package Process
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
* rpmforge: fr2.rpmfind.net
* base: medon.htt-consult.com
* updates: medon.htt-consult.com
* addons: mirror.steadfast.net
* extras: pubmirrors.reflected.net
272 packages excluded due to repository priority protections
Examining hipl-agent-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm: hipl-agent - 1.0.4-1.i386



Yeah, what is this hipl package?

http://infrahip.hiit.fi/index.php?index=home

Is that it?

Yes.

Although yours seems to be newer and has additional
packages. Do they provide a src rpm which you could then just rebuild
against CentOS 5?


See my prior note. Time to do some compiling on my own.

I can design major changes to IP, but code it?

No way....

And of course I had my hands in IPng. Now I get to actually implement it!

Ray
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