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Old 03-10-2011, 01:03 AM
Nico Kadel-Garcia
 
Default Updates from today

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Karanbir Singh <mail-lists@karan.org> wrote:
> On 03/07/2011 10:48 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote:
>> and have the tree's over into QA. Once that is done, the updates can
>> churn though.
>
> Just a quick update to this, updates now churning. The last bits of 5.6
> fell into place over the course of the last 24 hrs.
>
> - KB

Woo-hoo!!!!!!
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Old 03-10-2011, 03:00 AM
Jerry Amundson
 
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On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Karanbir Singh <mail-lists@karan.org> wrote:
> On 03/09/2011 05:47 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
>> Can you comment on CentOS 6.0 status? Is it still 2-3 weeks from now or
>> was there any progress that will shorten this period?
>
> 2 - 3 weeks from GA release of 5.6 is still a good time line to plan
> against.

If the response to a question regarding "CentOS 6.0 status" only
relates to "GA release of 5.6", then, in spite of the constant
responses to the contrary, there is a discrepancy between "what is
expected from CentOS", and "what is delivered by CentOS". Period. End
of story. Own up to it. Fix it.

jerry
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Old 03-10-2011, 03:15 AM
William Warren
 
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On 3/9/2011 11:44 AM, Karanbir Singh wrote:
> On 03/07/2011 10:48 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote:
>> and have the tree's over into QA. Once that is done, the updates can
>> churn though.
> Just a quick update to this, updates now churning. The last bits of 5.6
> fell into place over the course of the last 24 hrs.
>
> - KB
>
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How about the updates that came out after 5.6 was released. Are you
going to roll those into the 5.6 tree directly or put out those updates
immediately after you roll out 5.6?
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Old 03-10-2011, 03:22 AM
David Brian Chait
 
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> If the response to a question regarding "CentOS 6.0 status" only
> relates to "GA release of 5.6", then, in spite of the constant
> responses to the contrary, there is a discrepancy between "what is
> expected from CentOS", and "what is delivered by CentOS". Period. End
> of story. Own up to it. Fix it.

> jerry

Obviously you haven't been paying attention, they are getting 4.9/5.6 out the door first before pushing resources to 6. If you have an issue with the wait then you are free to install SL or RHEL.
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Old 03-10-2011, 08:13 AM
Johnny Hughes
 
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On 03/09/2011 10:15 PM, William Warren wrote:
> On 3/9/2011 11:44 AM, Karanbir Singh wrote:
>> On 03/07/2011 10:48 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote:
>>> and have the tree's over into QA. Once that is done, the updates can
>>> churn though.
>> Just a quick update to this, updates now churning. The last bits of 5.6
>> fell into place over the course of the last 24 hrs.
>>
> How about the updates that came out after 5.6 was released. Are you
> going to roll those into the 5.6 tree directly or put out those updates
> immediately after you roll out 5.6?

We will always produce the OS tree to be an exact copy of our released
media, with everything else in updates.

Our media needs to be the exact same versions of programs as the
upstream media to allow for 3rd party drivers to work properly at
installation time.

So, the answer is that versions newer than those on the upstream
installation media for a given point release will always be placed in
updates.

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Old 03-10-2011, 09:04 AM
Karanbir Singh
 
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On 03/10/2011 04:00 AM, Jerry Amundson wrote:
> If the response to a question regarding "CentOS 6.0 status" only
> relates to "GA release of 5.6", then, in spite of the constant
> responses to the contrary, there is a discrepancy between "what is
> expected from CentOS", and "what is delivered by CentOS". Period. End
> of story. Own up to it. Fix it.

What a load of bollocks.

If this was your first post here, I'd assume differently - but, having
been here long enough, I'd now say you just dont know whats going on.
Give up. go home. The complexity of this stuff is beyond what you are
able to parse.

bye,

- KB
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Old 03-10-2011, 09:05 AM
Karanbir Singh
 
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Hi,

On 03/10/2011 04:15 AM, William Warren wrote:
> How about the updates that came out after 5.6 was released. Are you
> going to roll those into the 5.6 tree directly or put out those updates
> immediately after you roll out 5.6?

The base [os] will remain intact, so the updates post 5.6 will go into
the 5.6/updates/ repo's. If you want to install with the updates, you
can always setup-networking, add the updates repo to the installer.

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Old 03-10-2011, 09:28 AM
Johnny Hughes
 
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On 03/09/2011 10:00 PM, Jerry Amundson wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Karanbir Singh <mail-lists@karan.org> wrote:
>> On 03/09/2011 05:47 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
>>> Can you comment on CentOS 6.0 status? Is it still 2-3 weeks from now or
>>> was there any progress that will shorten this period?
>>
>> 2 - 3 weeks from GA release of 5.6 is still a good time line to plan
>> against.
>
> If the response to a question regarding "CentOS 6.0 status" only
> relates to "GA release of 5.6", then, in spite of the constant
> responses to the contrary, there is a discrepancy between "what is
> expected from CentOS", and "what is delivered by CentOS". Period. End
> of story. Own up to it. Fix it.

Take you expectations and your condescending attitude someplace else.

You get a free operating system that is enterprise grade when we provide
it for you.

If you don't like it, don't use it.

If you want a service level agreement with guaranteed deliverables, buy one.


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Old 03-10-2011, 10:54 AM
Bill Maidment
 
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-----Original message-----
To: centos-devel@centos.org;
From: Johnny Hughes <johnny@centos.org>
Sent: Thu 10-03-2011 21:29
Subject: Re: [CentOS-devel] Updates from today
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> On 03/09/2011 10:00 PM, Jerry Amundson wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Karanbir Singh <mail-lists@karan.org> wrote:
> >> On 03/09/2011 05:47 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
> >>> Can you comment on CentOS 6.0 status? Is it still 2-3 weeks from now or
> >>> was there any progress that will shorten this period?
> >>
> >> 2 - 3 weeks from GA release of 5.6 is still a good time line to plan
> >> against.
> >
> > If the response to a question regarding "CentOS 6.0 status" only
> > relates to "GA release of 5.6", then, in spite of the constant
> > responses to the contrary, there is a discrepancy between "what is
> > expected from CentOS", and "what is delivered by CentOS". Period. End
> > of story. Own up to it. Fix it.
>
> Take you expectations and your condescending attitude someplace else.
>
> You get a free operating system that is enterprise grade when we provide
> it for you.
>
> If you don't like it, don't use it.
>
> If you want a service level agreement with guaranteed deliverables, buy one.
>

Enough of this slanging match! The professionalism of this list has gone right down the tubes!

Please take the 'Ce' out and make it ntOS. It has nothing to do with Community or Enterprise.

I have decided to take all my servers to Scientific Linux forthwith.
I will not touch CentOS with a bargepole from now on.

Goodbye
Bill
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Old 03-10-2011, 11:16 AM
"John R. Dennison"
 
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On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:54:21PM +1100, Bill Maidment wrote:
>
> Enough of this slanging match! The professionalism of this list has
> gone right down the tubes!

Actually I thought Johnny's response was the epitome of
professionalism considering the invective of the response he was
replying to.

And he's right. If you don't like it you are not forced to
continue using the product. The original poster seems to feel
that he is owed something which he is not. People are free to
believe what they wish, of course, but the reality of the
situation might very well be something completely at odds with
their mistaken beliefs.


> Please take the 'Ce' out and make it ntOS. It has nothing to do with
> Community or Enterprise.

Get real. It's a full baked, 100% binary, API and ABI compliant
rebuild of the upstream vendor's enterprise linux product. Said
product, I might add, being the most popular and well entrenched
commercial enterprise linux product in the world. If you,
somehow, take that to mean that CentOS isn't an enterprise grade
distribution then you are, I must say, quite deluded.

> I have decided to take all my servers to Scientific Linux forthwith.

Excellent. May you find happiness and peace there.

> I will not touch CentOS with a bargepole from now on.

Wow. You've access to a bargepole? Neat beans.

> Goodbye

*wave*




John
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have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to
worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have
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