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Old 11-13-2010, 10:11 PM
Karanbir Singh
 
Default build errors with some RHEL6 packages

On 11/13/2010 02:40 PM, Farkas Levente wrote:
>>> - which version of mock and ccache do you use?
>> no ccache, mock-0.6.3
> which is more then 4 years old. since then many things happened...

*shrug* so ? running rpmbuild isnt rocket science.

> because you don't have those problems, does not mean nobody else have...
> and that was the reason why i wrote this letter (as i assume the
> difference is the build environment).

This is the CentOS devel list, were talking about what goes into the
CentOS build right ?

> i spoken and rh already verified it, but as rh official build way is
> rpmbuild and not mock (see:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613392#c4) they not really
> care about it.
> the reason why it's working for you probably your very old mock version
> and centos-5 build hosts.

You say old, I say working. Our emphasis is on creating a stable and
sustainable setup, I dont care if a build will take 5% longer to run;
but i care *lots* if that build isn't going to give me the same result
every time. So the aim isnt to break something that already works, but
to use what works towards the end result : the builds.

At the moment the centos3/4/5 and centos6 build services are completely
segregated. But in the next few months we will need to merge things in,
how and what we do at that time will depend on testing that we do at the
time. Its not a problem we need to solve right away.

The thing we *do* need to get done right away is the branding
identification and patching.

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Old 11-16-2010, 04:12 PM
David Hrbáč
 
Default build errors with some RHEL6 packages

Dne 14.11.2010 0:11, Karanbir Singh napsal(a):
> You say old, I say working. Our emphasis is on creating a stable and
> sustainable setup, I dont care if a build will take 5% longer to run;
> but i care *lots* if that build isn't going to give me the same result
> every time. So the aim isnt to break something that already works, but
> to use what works towards the end result : the builds.
>

Hi,
Are there any on-line references on this issue I can read about?
Thanks,
DH
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Old 11-16-2010, 07:30 PM
Leonard den Ottolander
 
Default build errors with some RHEL6 packages

Hi,

Sort of falling into this thread mid way, but I had an issue failing to
build the RHEL6 glibc rpm on RHEl6beta due to unpackaged debug files.
Reported this as a bug:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=653905 .

Adding

%_enable_debug_packages 1

to .rpmmacros fixed the packaging issue for this package. Might work for
other builds that fail due to unpackaged files too.

Regards,
Leonard.

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Old 11-17-2010, 09:27 AM
Karanbir Singh
 
Default build errors with some RHEL6 packages

On 11/16/2010 05:12 PM, David Hrbáč wrote:
>> You say old, I say working.
> Are there any on-line references on this issue I can read about?

The important thing is - what is in place now works, and works well. I
dont see anything interesting in the newer mock builds to merit an
upgrade. On the other hand, was it not you who originally reported
issues with the file name based deps were broken for a long time with
yum-3.0 / mock > 0.7; and then there were selinux issues with mock >=8
on EL5. I remember working through some of these issues with Tuomo (
bleve on irc.f.n ).

In all fairness, since CentOS-3 is now EOL, the next step might be to
re-eval the situation and only consider the components we need to build.
A good time to do that would be when we merge the C-6 buildsys stuff
into the regular buildsystem. For now, since the C-6 buildqueues will (
or would have ) stayed quite busy for a while, we didnt want that to
cause backlogs on updates for c4/c5 going out - so we setup a parallel
bsys instance.

I will make sure that a lot of noise is made when we start merging stuff
in, and all help / comments would be very welcome the 'new' system is
based around a stom-server instance with various task-threads hanging
off, extremely simple and very ripe for public distribution.

Much of this is perhaps not be relevant to the topic..

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Old 11-17-2010, 10:04 AM
Karanbir Singh
 
Default build errors with some RHEL6 packages

On 11/17/2010 10:27 AM, Karanbir Singh wrote:
> based around a stom-server instance with various task-threads hanging

There should be a 'p' in there... Stomp-server

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Old 11-17-2010, 02:01 PM
JohnS
 
Default build errors with some RHEL6 packages

On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 10:27 +0000, Karanbir Singh wrote:
> On 11/16/2010 05:12 PM, David Hrbáč wrote:

> In all fairness, since CentOS-3 is now EOL, the next step might be to
> re-eval the situation and only consider the components we need to build.
> A good time to do that would be when we merge the C-6 buildsys stuff
> into the regular buildsystem. For now, since the C-6 buildqueues will (
> or would have ) stayed quite busy for a while, we didnt want that to
> cause backlogs on updates for c4/c5 going out - so we setup a parallel
> bsys instance.

No build priority preemption? Entirely possible queuing priority versus
build/distro/package/importance.

> I will make sure that a lot of noise is made when we start merging stuff
> in, and all help / comments would be very welcome the 'new' system is
> based around a stom-server instance with various task-threads hanging
> off, extremely simple and very ripe for public distribution.

Public Distribution? Perhaps when? Would like to give it a spin.

> Much of this is perhaps not be relevant to the topic..

You could make another thread?

John

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Old 11-17-2010, 02:04 PM
Karanbir Singh
 
Default build errors with some RHEL6 packages

On 11/17/2010 03:01 PM, JohnS wrote:
> No build priority preemption? Entirely possible queuing priority versus
> build/distro/package/importance.

Not really, messages can be related. Either on conditional external
tests or via queue allocation / hijack / bury process. In this case, I'm
working with conditionals.

>> I will make sure that a lot of noise is made when we start merging stuff
>> in, and all help / comments would be very welcome the 'new' system is
> Public Distribution? Perhaps when? Would like to give it a spin.
>

couple of weeks after 6 is released.

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Old 11-17-2010, 02:18 PM
JohnS
 
Default build errors with some RHEL6 packages

On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 15:04 +0000, Karanbir Singh wrote:
> On 11/17/2010 03:01 PM, JohnS wrote:
> > No build priority preemption? Entirely possible queuing priority versus
> > build/distro/package/importance.
>
> Not really, messages can be related. Either on conditional external
> tests or via queue allocation / hijack / bury process. In this case, I'm
> working with conditionals.
>
> >> I will make sure that a lot of noise is made when we start merging stuff
> >> in, and all help / comments would be very welcome the 'new' system is
> > Public Distribution? Perhaps when? Would like to give it a spin.
> >
>
> couple of weeks after 6 is released.
>
> -KB
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More than happy to Guinea Pig it around before then...

John

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Old 11-18-2010, 06:57 PM
Charlie Brady
 
Default build errors with some RHEL6 packages

On Wed, 17 Nov 2010, Karanbir Singh wrote:

> On 11/17/2010 03:01 PM, JohnS wrote:
> > No build priority preemption? Entirely possible queuing priority versus
> > build/distro/package/importance.
>
> Not really, messages can be related. Either on conditional external
> tests or via queue allocation / hijack / bury process. In this case, I'm
> working with conditionals.
>
> >> I will make sure that a lot of noise is made when we start merging stuff
> >> in, and all help / comments would be very welcome the 'new' system is
> > Public Distribution? Perhaps when? Would like to give it a spin.
>
> couple of weeks after 6 is released.

So, in about a week, eh?
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Old 11-19-2010, 10:08 AM
Hugo van der Kooij
 
Default build errors with some RHEL6 packages

On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 14:57:58 -0500 (EST), Charlie Brady
<charlieb-centos-devel@budge.apana.org.au> wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Nov 2010, Karanbir Singh wrote:
>
>> couple of weeks after 6 is released.
>
> So, in about a week, eh?

Dream on. I just requested a 30 day eval. And all I can get is a Beta
of RHEL6. So it seems RHEL 6 is not realy realy there yet. It almost
sounds like another OS vendor ;-)

Hugo.

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