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Old 08-07-2008, 02:20 PM
Michael Beckwith
 
Default Wallpaper Extras

How about uploading scaled down images to the wiki to show there, and
uploading the full sized images to fedorapeople and providing a direct
link to those on the wiki page with the gallery? May be a bit of extra
work, but it'd save strain on the wiki.



Martin Sourada wrote:

On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 13:11 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote:


For images stored in the wiki the thumbnails are created on the server.



Then I think uploading it to wiki directly is better way.



I was thinking about file sizes... the JPEGs straight from my camera are
about 4.5-5MB, resized at 1920x1200, they will get under 1.5MB, but this
is still quite large (and the file size will be a problem for the
package too).



That's a drawback of providing quality images we need to pay if we
decide to provide them. There are already packages in repos that have
size around 200MB and the extras backgrounds would fall into that kind
of packages too. Therefore I was thinking about splitting the package
into sub-packages as per the (sub-)categories listed on the wiki + plus
providing meta-packages to e.g. install all sub-categories of the
specified category, or everything. That would be nicer to our users.

Maybe even make separate packages for wide-screen wallpapers as people
with 16:10 displays usually do not need 4:3 wallpapers and vice-versa.

Another itchy thing is update of such packages. In environments with
yum-presto the issue would not be big, but for standard fedora
environment as it is now it means a lot of d/l with every update. That
would mean we'd need to keep the updates low and/or rather than making
sub-packages for categories, make the fully separate packages (but keep
the sub-categories-subpackages).

Btw. it is good thing to have upstream in more convenient place than
wiki/rpm, therefore making a fedorahosted.org project for that might be
a good idea. What do you think?

Any ideas/comments on that matter?

Martin



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Old 08-08-2008, 07:32 AM
"Vara Prasad Pepakayala"
 
Default Wallpaper Extras

Hi Frns... I have some Close up Obkects..* which I have shot using my Nikon-D50... will you guys accept such content .. If ,so i will upload in the next mail.
Thankyou..
Dreko


2008/8/7 Michael Beckwith <michael.d.beckwith@gmail.com>








How about uploading scaled down images to the wiki to show there, and
uploading the full sized images to fedorapeople and providing a direct
link to those on the wiki page with the gallery? May be a bit of extra
work, but it'd save strain on the wiki.



Martin Sourada wrote:

On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 13:11 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote:


For images stored in the wiki the thumbnails are created on the server.



Then I think uploading it to wiki directly is better way.



I was thinking about file sizes... the JPEGs straight from my camera are
about 4.5-5MB, resized at 1920x1200, they will get under 1.5MB, but this
is still quite large (and the file size will be a problem for the
package too).



That's a drawback of providing quality images we need to pay if we
decide to provide them. There are already packages in repos that have
size around 200MB and the extras backgrounds would fall into that kind
of packages too. Therefore I was thinking about splitting the package
into sub-packages as per the (sub-)categories listed on the wiki + plus
providing meta-packages to e.g. install all sub-categories of the
specified category, or everything. That would be nicer to our users.

Maybe even make separate packages for wide-screen wallpapers as people
with 16:10 displays usually do not need 4:3 wallpapers and vice-versa.

Another itchy thing is update of such packages. In environments with
yum-presto the issue would not be big, but for standard fedora
environment as it is now it means a lot of d/l with every update. That
would mean we'd need to keep the updates low and/or rather than making
sub-packages for categories, make the fully separate packages (but keep
the sub-categories-subpackages).

Btw. it is good thing to have upstream in more convenient place than
wiki/rpm, therefore making a fedorahosted.org project for that might be
a good idea. What do you think?

Any ideas/comments on that matter?

Martin


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Old 08-08-2008, 08:16 AM
Nicu Buculei
 
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Vara Prasad Pepakayala wrote:
Hi Frns... I have some Close up Obkects.. which I have shot using my
Nikon-D50... will you guys accept such content .. If ,so i will upload
in the next mail.


Please do not attach large files to the mail, always try to keep the
file size under control when attaching to a mailing list.


Please upload your files to the wiki and add the wallpapers here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Wallpaper_Extras

(I just approved your membership request in FAS so you should be allowed)

As for content, we accept it if: 1. it has an acceptable license
(CC-BY-SA should be OK) and 2. is not completely unfit in the context.

Macro photography may work as backgrounds, so go ahead.

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Old 08-08-2008, 08:48 AM
"Vara Prasad Pepakayala"
 
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As for content, we accept it if: 1. it has an acceptable license (CC-BY-SA should be OK) and 2. is not completely unfit in the context.

Macro photography may work as backgrounds, so go ahead.



Can you please Tell Me about the CC-BY-SA license?
Thankyou in Advance..
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Old 08-08-2008, 09:06 AM
Nicu Buculei
 
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Vara Prasad Pepakayala wrote:


As for content, we accept it if: 1. it has an acceptable license
(CC-BY-SA should be OK) and 2. is not completely unfit in the context.
Macro photography may work as backgrounds, so go ahead.


Can you please Tell Me about the CC-BY-SA license?


I think you should read a bit about Creative Commons and their licenses:
http://creativecommons.org/license/


And Attribution-Share Alike in particular:
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/


If you want more words:
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/legalcode


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Old 08-08-2008, 09:06 AM
Martin Sourada
 
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On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 14:18 +0530, Vara Prasad Pepakayala wrote:
>
>
>
> As for content, we accept it if: 1. it has an acceptable
> license (CC-BY-SA should be OK) and 2. is not completely unfit
> in the context.
> Macro photography may work as backgrounds, so go ahead.
>
>
>
>
> Can you please Tell Me about the CC-BY-SA license?
> Thankyou in Advance..
> Dreko
>
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/

The text there is for ordinary humans so it should not be hard for you
to understand what the license is about.

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Old 08-08-2008, 09:25 AM
"Vara Prasad Pepakayala"
 
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Can you Give me a brief info about uploading Images to this page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Wallpaper_Extras .
Thak you

Dreko


On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Nicu Buculei <nicu_fedora@nicubunu.ro> wrote:

Vara Prasad Pepakayala wrote:




* *As for content, we accept it if: 1. it has an acceptable license

* *(CC-BY-SA should be OK) and 2. is not completely unfit in the context.

* *Macro photography may work as backgrounds, so go ahead.





Can you please Tell Me about the CC-BY-SA license?




I think you should read a bit about Creative Commons and their licenses: http://creativecommons.org/license/



And Attribution-Share Alike in particular: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/



If you want more words: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/legalcode



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Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/

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Old 08-08-2008, 10:48 AM
Martin Sourada
 
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On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 14:55 +0530, Vara Prasad Pepakayala wrote:
> Can you Give me a brief info about uploading Images to this page
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Wallpaper_Extras .
> Thak you
> Dreko
>
I haven't uploaded anything on the new wiki yet, but as I understand it,
you should upload the image to wiki first (use same name structure for
the image names as nicu did, e.g "Wallpaper-nicubunu-hay.jpg") and then
let it display on the page (you can follow nicu's example). To upload go
to TOOLBOX > Upload file (which gets you to
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Special:Upload ) and follow through the
steps. To add it to the page, just hit Edit (you need to be logged in)
and follow the already established structure of the page.

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Old 08-08-2008, 10:55 AM
"Vara Prasad Pepakayala"
 
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Can you please Tell Me about the CC-BY-SA license?




I think you should read a bit about Creative Commons and their licenses: http://creativecommons.org/license/



And Attribution-Share Alike in particular: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/



If you want more words: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/legalcode

*ihave uploaded the image and on the page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Wallpaper_Extras , i have selected "edit", and in the edit window i Have only this..

=== Flora ===
<gallery>Image:Wallpaper-nicubunu-cactus.jpg|A cactus
</gallery>

I need to appen this section... this is my image... https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Pink_for_Pink.jpg ..

thanks in advance..
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Old 08-08-2008, 11:02 AM
Nicu Buculei
 
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Vara Prasad Pepakayala wrote:
ihave uploaded the image and on the page
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Wallpaper_Extras , i have
selected "edit", and in the edit window i Have only this..


=== Flora ===

<gallery>
Image:Wallpaper-nicubunu-cactus.jpg|A cactus
</gallery>

I need to appen this section... this is my image...
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Pink_for_Pink.jpg ..


In that case you may want to make it like this:

<gallery>
Image:Wallpaper-nicubunu-cactus.jpg|A cactus
Image:Pink_for_Pink.jpg|Pink for Pink
</gallery>

But as Martin said in a previous message, is a good idea to indicate
somehow that the image is a wallpaper, ant I thought using the file name
is a good solution.


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