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Old 09-12-2012, 05:52 PM
Dmitry Korzhevin
 
Default Disown request: tmux-git

12.09.2012 17:01, Alexander Rødseth пишет:
> Hi,
>
> Disowned. Thanks.
>

Thank you, Alexander! Package adopted and PKGBUILD updated.


Best regards,
Dmitry Korzhevin
 
Old 09-13-2012, 07:31 AM
SanskritFritz
 
Default Disown request: tmux-git

On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Dave Reisner <d@falconindy.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 04:48:11PM +0200, SanskritFritz wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Alexander Rdseth <rodseth@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Disowned. Thanks.
>>
>> I find this a bit interesting and alarming. The OP has not shared any
>> details about any reason or about writing emails to the maintainer,
>> nevetheless you disowned the package without asking. May we know the
>> reason?
>> This process is too open if you ask me, anyone can ask here to disown
>> any package. Now there are packages in the AUR which I trust, because
>> I trust the maintainer, hence I don't check the PKGBUILD before every
>> update. A git package can be changed any time without version check,
>> but it will be compiled every day when I makepkg. So to summarise:
>> someone asks for a disown here, gives no reasons why. You orphan it,
>> anyone can adopt it immediately and change the package as he wants. I
>> update the package using cower, and trust that the maintainer has not
>> changed (I know, my mistake), so I have an altered package without my
>> knowledge. Am I missing something?
>
> I think you're hugely overreacting. The TUs do a tremendous job of
> dealing with the constant onslaught of these requests. On the whole, I
> think they do an excellent job of auditing and doing the right thing.
> It's extremely rare that there's any drama or questioning of their
> actions. If you have evidence to the contrary occurring on this list,
> please feel free to correct me.

I definitely can't correct you, I'm subscribed for long time and never
saw any problem with disown requests.

> That said, I think this is one _isolated_ case where perhaps the OP
> should have been questioned and this package not immediately disowned.

Indeed this was an isolated case.

Ok, that sounded indeed overreacting. Sorry for that. Please
understand that all I saw was: "Please disown package X" - "Done". The
moment it was disowned, anyone was free to adopt the package, I could
have done it, it was still orphan.
The thing is, I'm looking for a way to catch a maintainer change with
my installed AUR packages. This is why I'm subscribed here, and this
is why I constantly check the AUR packages whether the maintainer is
still the same or not. I'm planning to write a script to keep track of
the maintainers in the AUR packages and run it everytime I update them
to get an alarm. Is there already such a script maybe?

And finally I must join you in the praise of the TU's, I really was
not aware of the harsh tone in my answer. So, again, sorry and Thanks
TU's and Devs for your work.
 
Old 09-13-2012, 03:37 PM
Alex Belanger
 
Default Disown request: tmux-git

Sanskritfritz,

I like your idea and am actually working on an API to check for maintainer
changes in a range of dates while providing as much details as possible on
that change. It should be ready by the end of the day and will let you (and
the mailing list) know.

Kindly,
Alex

On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 3:31 AM, SanskritFritz <sanskritfritz@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Dave Reisner <d@falconindy.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 04:48:11PM +0200, SanskritFritz wrote:
> >> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Alexander Rdseth <rodseth@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > Disowned. Thanks.
> >>
> >> I find this a bit interesting and alarming. The OP has not shared any
> >> details about any reason or about writing emails to the maintainer,
> >> nevetheless you disowned the package without asking. May we know the
> >> reason?
> >> This process is too open if you ask me, anyone can ask here to disown
> >> any package. Now there are packages in the AUR which I trust, because
> >> I trust the maintainer, hence I don't check the PKGBUILD before every
> >> update. A git package can be changed any time without version check,
> >> but it will be compiled every day when I makepkg. So to summarise:
> >> someone asks for a disown here, gives no reasons why. You orphan it,
> >> anyone can adopt it immediately and change the package as he wants. I
> >> update the package using cower, and trust that the maintainer has not
> >> changed (I know, my mistake), so I have an altered package without my
> >> knowledge. Am I missing something?
> >
> > I think you're hugely overreacting. The TUs do a tremendous job of
> > dealing with the constant onslaught of these requests. On the whole, I
> > think they do an excellent job of auditing and doing the right thing.
> > It's extremely rare that there's any drama or questioning of their
> > actions. If you have evidence to the contrary occurring on this list,
> > please feel free to correct me.
>
> I definitely can't correct you, I'm subscribed for long time and never
> saw any problem with disown requests.
>
> > That said, I think this is one _isolated_ case where perhaps the OP
> > should have been questioned and this package not immediately disowned.
>
> Indeed this was an isolated case.
>
> Ok, that sounded indeed overreacting. Sorry for that. Please
> understand that all I saw was: "Please disown package X" - "Done". The
> moment it was disowned, anyone was free to adopt the package, I could
> have done it, it was still orphan.
> The thing is, I'm looking for a way to catch a maintainer change with
> my installed AUR packages. This is why I'm subscribed here, and this
> is why I constantly check the AUR packages whether the maintainer is
> still the same or not. I'm planning to write a script to keep track of
> the maintainers in the AUR packages and run it everytime I update them
> to get an alarm. Is there already such a script maybe?
>
> And finally I must join you in the praise of the TU's, I really was
> not aware of the harsh tone in my answer. So, again, sorry and Thanks
> TU's and Devs for your work.
>
 
Old 09-13-2012, 06:18 PM
SanskritFritz
 
Default Disown request: tmux-git

On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 5:37 PM, Alex Belanger <i.caught.air@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sanskritfritz,
>
> I like your idea and am actually working on an API to check for maintainer
> changes in a range of dates while providing as much details as possible on
> that change. It should be ready by the end of the day and will let you (and
> the mailing list) know.

Wow, thanks, that sounds great!
 

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