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Old 06-09-2010, 10:39 PM
Peter Lewis
Default sage-mathematics (was: TU application for Thomas Dziedzic)


Sorry for diverting the thread, but since there was some discussion about this,
I wanted to ask.

On Wednesday 09 Jun 2010 at 21:15 Thomas Dziedzic wrote:
> > well, sage-mathematics is not a package, it is a distribution (btw, do you
> > know scilab?). Some years ago I asked on this list if it should go to
> > community, and the short discussion ended in the conclusion, that it
> > should not. But I am fine with disussing it again.
> I guess you could call it a distribution which puts a lot of tools
> under a common interface because that's basically what it is.
> Afaik, the programs that come with it are isolated to the package. Too
> bad it wont make it to community then, since I was hoping to spare a
> lot of compilation time for people :P

I installed the sage-mathematics package from the AUR recently, and yes, the
whole way it's put together seems a mess (though this seemed more to do with
sage itself than the way it's packaged).

But my question is this - I've had some of the constituent parts which make up
sage installed for a while, so didn't really want to have another whole version
of them installed in /opt just so I could use them through the sage interface.
That seemed like a mess. Is it possible to organise this such that it build of
the constituent parts, rather than installs two versions of them? (Or is it
basically an inherent problem caused by the way that sage requires them to be


Old 06-09-2010, 10:49 PM
Peter Lewis
Default sage-mathematics (was: TU application for Thomas Dziedzic)

On Wednesday 09 Jun 2010 at 23:31 Xyne wrote:
> Incidentally, I remember that when I compiled it the package duplicated
> several other packages, e.g. maxima, because it includes other
> applications internally. Is there any way (yet) to make it use other
> packages instead? If not, does it fully provide any other packages?

Yes, this is exactly what I was trying to describe in my previous post - thanks
for stating it clearer than me. And I think your suggestions are what is needed.

> * The idea of an "arch-science" team comes to mind, similar to the
> "arch-haskell" team, which has done great work in making Arch useful
> for Haskell users, but I don't actually have any concrete ideas of
> what that would entail.

I'd be interested in helping out with this :-)


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