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Old 04-06-2010, 01:22 AM
Joshua Dobiac
 
Default Package Updates

I was installing a package that was out-of-date, but I'm not sure how to
contact the package manager to update it. A search for the package
reveals that it has already been flagged as out-of-date.


Basically, what I want to know is: if the package maintainer is not
updating the package, is there a way to resubmit the package with an
update or otherwise take over management of the package? I don't want
to step on anyone's toes and it's a small fix, but it's a pain to have
an install fail and then have to find the problem and fix it and I'd
like help anyone else (though the universe of individuals is probably 2)
who might try to use the package in the future.


Best Regards,

Joshua Dobiac
 
Old 04-06-2010, 01:29 AM
Panos Filip
 
Default Package Updates

On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 4:22 AM, Joshua Dobiac <joshua.dobiac@gmail.com>wrote:

> I was installing a package that was out-of-date, but I'm not sure how to
> contact the package manager to update it. A search for the package reveals
> that it has already been flagged as out-of-date.
>
> Basically, what I want to know is: if the package maintainer is not
> updating the package, is there a way to resubmit the package with an update
> or otherwise take over management of the package? I don't want to step on
> anyone's toes and it's a small fix, but it's a pain to have an install fail
> and then have to find the problem and fix it and I'd like help anyone else
> (though the universe of individuals is probably 2) who might try to use the
> package in the future.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Joshua Dobiac
>

At first, could you tell us which package is it ?
Second, you can press the contributor's name and find his/hers email
address. You can contact them this way OR/AND you can add a comment on the
package's comment area and [possibly] the contributor will see it.

If the contributor answers, it's OK.

If you can't find him, in any way, for days, you could ask a TU to orphan it
so that you could adopt it and then update it.

Making a new package for an existing one, that's not the best way to do it


Regards,

Panos Filip
 
Old 03-30-2011, 01:59 PM
Chuck Short
 
Default Package Updates

Hi,

For Oneiric I would like the following packages updated:

dovecot 1.2.x -> 2.x
mysql 5.1 -> 5.5

The reasoning for this update in the long run it will be easier to
maintain for a LTS and more users want to use both mysql 5.5 and
dovecot2.

Regards
chuck

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Old 03-30-2011, 02:13 PM
Scott Kitterman
 
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On Wednesday, March 30, 2011 09:59:58 AM Chuck Short wrote:
> Hi,
>
> For Oneiric I would like the following packages updated:
>
> dovecot 1.2.x -> 2.x
> mysql 5.1 -> 5.5
>
> The reasoning for this update in the long run it will be easier to
> maintain for a LTS and more users want to use both mysql 5.5 and
> dovecot2.
>
> Regards
> chuck
Since mysql is used by desktop applications we'll need to make sure that's
supported there as well. We don't want to get into another mess like we did
with having to support 5.0 and 5.1 (to some degree) in Main.

I'm very interested in postgresql-9.0, but that should just happen since it's
in Debian already and postgresql supports parallel installation of multiple
versions. The only question is if it should be the version in Main starting
in O or P. I think there are some packaging complications if the highest
version in the archive isn't the one in Main (pitti would know for sure).

Scott K

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On 30/03/2011 04:55 =CE=BC=CE=BC, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> reassign 619170 src:linux-2.6 2.6.32-31
> thanks
>
> Hi,
>
> (just a random passer-by=E2=80=A6)
>
> Giorgos Pallas <gpall@ccf.auth.gr> (21/03/2011):
> =20
>> Package: btrfs-tools
>> Version: 0.19+20100601-3
>> Severity: normal
>> File: /sbin/btrfs
>>
>>
>> I run btrfs on a USB disk and after an accidental disconnect of the US=
B
>> cable, I got this:
>>
>> [109158.260743] usb 2-3: USB disconnect, address 3
>> [110181.902026] lost page write due to I/O error on dm-5
>> [110181.902092] lost page write due to I/O error on dm-5
>> [110181.905171] lost page write due to I/O error on dm-5
>> [110181.905182] btrfs: 1 errors while writing supers
>> [110181.905228] ------------[ cut here ]------------
>> [110181.905231] kernel BUG at /build/buildd-linux-2.6_2.6.32-31-amd64-=
vrfdM4/linux-2.6-2.6.32/debian/build/source_amd64_none/fs/btrfs/disk-io.c=
:2300!
>> =20
> ^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Looks like a kernel bug [], reassigning to the kernel package.
>
> You may want to run the linux-2.6 bug script and attach its output to
> this bug report:
> /usr/share/bug/linux-$yourpackage/script 3>/tmp/kernel-bug.txt
>
> =20

What do you mean linux-$yourpackage?



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Old 03-30-2011, 02:16 PM
Ralph Janke
 
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Isn't it time to use mariadb instead of mysql?

On 03/30/2011 10:13 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote:

On Wednesday, March 30, 2011 09:59:58 AM Chuck Short wrote:

Hi,

For Oneiric I would like the following packages updated:

dovecot 1.2.x -> 2.x
mysql 5.1 -> 5.5

The reasoning for this update in the long run it will be easier to
maintain for a LTS and more users want to use both mysql 5.5 and
dovecot2.

Regards
chuck

Since mysql is used by desktop applications we'll need to make sure that's
supported there as well. We don't want to get into another mess like we did
with having to support 5.0 and 5.1 (to some degree) in Main.

I'm very interested in postgresql-9.0, but that should just happen since it's
in Debian already and postgresql supports parallel installation of multiple
versions. The only question is if it should be the version in Main starting
in O or P. I think there are some packaging complications if the highest
version in the archive isn't the one in Main (pitti would know for sure).

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Old 03-30-2011, 02:25 PM
Scott Kitterman
 
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On Wednesday, March 30, 2011 10:16:14 AM Ralph Janke wrote:

Top posting fixed.

> On 03/30/2011 10:13 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> > On Wednesday, March 30, 2011 09:59:58 AM Chuck Short wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> For Oneiric I would like the following packages updated:
> >>
> >> dovecot 1.2.x -> 2.x
> >> mysql 5.1 -> 5.5
> >>
> >> The reasoning for this update in the long run it will be easier to
> >> maintain for a LTS and more users want to use both mysql 5.5 and
> >> dovecot2.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> chuck
> >
> > Since mysql is used by desktop applications we'll need to make sure
> > that's supported there as well. We don't want to get into another mess
> > like we did with having to support 5.0 and 5.1 (to some degree) in Main.
> >
> > I'm very interested in postgresql-9.0, but that should just happen since
> > it's in Debian already and postgresql supports parallel installation of
> > multiple versions. The only question is if it should be the version in
> > Main starting in O or P. I think there are some packaging complications
> > if the highest version in the archive isn't the one in Main (pitti would
> > know for sure).
> >
>
> Isn't it time to use mariadb instead of mysql?
>

There's more than one fork out there. It would probably be useful to have a
discussion about what mysql variant will be most supportable for LTS and move
towards that in the oneiric timeframe. I think that deserves a spec of it's
own.

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Old 03-30-2011, 02:43 PM
Douglas Stanley
 
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On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Scott Kitterman <ubuntu@kitterman.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 30, 2011 10:16:14 AM Ralph Janke wrote:
>
> Top posting fixed.
>
>> On 03/30/2011 10:13 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, March 30, 2011 09:59:58 AM Chuck Short wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> For Oneiric I would like the following packages updated:
>> >>
>> >> dovecot 1.2.x -> *2.x
>> >> mysql 5.1 -> *5.5
>> >>
>> >> The reasoning for this update in the long run it will be easier to
>> >> maintain for a LTS and more users want to use both mysql 5.5 and
>> >> dovecot2.
>> >>
>> >> Regards
>> >> chuck
>> >
>> > Since mysql is used by desktop applications we'll need to make sure
>> > that's supported there as well. *We don't want to get into another mess
>> > like we did with having to support 5.0 and 5.1 (to some degree) in Main.
>> >
>> > I'm very interested in postgresql-9.0, but that should just happen since
>> > it's in Debian already and postgresql supports parallel installation of
>> > multiple versions. *The only question is if it should be the version in
>> > Main starting in O or P. *I think there are some packaging complications
>> > if the highest version in the archive isn't the one in Main (pitti would
>> > know for sure).
>> >
>>
>> * Isn't it time to use mariadb instead of mysql?
>>
>
> There's more than one fork out there. *It would probably be useful to have a
> discussion about what mysql variant will be most supportable for LTS and move
> towards that in the oneiric timeframe. *I think that deserves a spec of it's
> own.
>
> Scott K
>

I agree, if the community is going to want to move away from mysql to
one of the variants, the time is now to discuss which one would be
best.

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Old 03-30-2011, 11:19 PM
Clint Byrum
 
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On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:16:14AM -0400, Ralph Janke wrote:
> Isn't it time to use mariadb instead of mysql?
>

Could you provide some rationalization of MariaDB vs. the main MySQL
releases?

There are a bunch of forks we could consider with varying degrees of
compatibility with MYSQL.

Percona (working on packaging)
MariaDB (available from their own repos)
Drizzle (in universe)

Compatible or not, none of these are really MySQL.

I'd really like to have a good reason before moving to any of these as
our preferred MySQL service. I don't think MySQL is like Hudson.. Oracle
seems to be taking good care of it and (for the time being) nothing has
changed in their approach to community contribution (which has never
been fantastic anyway).


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Old 03-31-2011, 12:33 AM
Douglas Stanley
 
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On Mar 30, 2011 7:20 PM, "Clint Byrum" <clint@ubuntu.com> wrote:

>

> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:16:14AM -0400, Ralph Janke wrote:

> > *Isn't it time to use mariadb instead of mysql?

> >

>

> Could you provide some rationalization of MariaDB vs. the main MySQL

> releases?

>

> There are a bunch of forks we could consider with varying degrees of

> compatibility with MYSQL.

>

> Percona (working on packaging)

> MariaDB (available from their own repos)

> Drizzle (in universe)

>

> Compatible or not, none of these are really MySQL.

>

> I'd really like to have a good reason before moving to any of these as

> our preferred MySQL service. I don't think MySQL is like Hudson.. Oracle

> seems to be taking good care of it and (for the time being) nothing has

> changed in their approach to community contribution (which has never

> been fantastic anyway).

>

>

I thought they recently pulled innodb support from the latest "community" edition of MySQL.* So unless the consensus is to just stick with 5.5 forever, then I guess there's no reason to choose a fork now.* However, if we don't want to stay with an old version forever,* a choice will have to be made at some point.



But then again, why not keep MySQL in main AND choose a newer fork to also include? Maybe some people won't care about innodb, and just keep using MySQL. Or maybe I'm completely wrong and innodb hasn't been pulled out, in which case, just ignore the crazy person in the corner babbling...



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Old 03-31-2011, 12:49 AM
Paul Graydon
 
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On 03/30/2011 02:33 PM, Douglas Stanley wrote:




On Mar 30, 2011 7:20 PM, "Clint Byrum" <clint@ubuntu.com>
wrote:

>

> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:16:14AM -0400, Ralph Janke
wrote:

> > *Isn't it time to use mariadb instead of mysql?

> >

>

> Could you provide some rationalization of MariaDB vs. the
main MySQL

> releases?

>

> There are a bunch of forks we could consider with varying
degrees of

> compatibility with MYSQL.

>

> Percona (working on packaging)

> MariaDB (available from their own repos)

> Drizzle (in universe)

>

> Compatible or not, none of these are really MySQL.

>

> I'd really like to have a good reason before moving to any
of these as

> our preferred MySQL service. I don't think MySQL is like
Hudson.. Oracle

> seems to be taking good care of it and (for the time being)
nothing has

> changed in their approach to community contribution (which
has never

> been fantastic anyway).

>

>

I thought they recently pulled innodb support from the latest
"community" edition of MySQL.* So unless the consensus is to
just stick with 5.5 forever, then I guess there's no reason to
choose a fork now.* However, if we don't want to stay with an
old version forever,* a choice will have to be made at some
point.


But then again, why not keep MySQL in main AND choose a newer
fork to also include? Maybe some people won't care about innodb,
and just keep using MySQL. Or maybe I'm completely wrong and
innodb hasn't been pulled out, in which case, just ignore the
crazy person in the corner babbling...


Quite the contrary.* MySQL is focusing more intently around innodb
than ever before.* That pulling from community edition was FUD that
got spread around from someone not understanding the differences
between MySQL Classic (free version that's targetted as an embedded
database for ISVs, OEMs and VARs) and MySQL Community Edition
which is aimed at servers : http://palominodb.com/blog/2010/11/04/oracle-not-removing-innodb
,* http://blogs.oracle.com/mysql/2010/11/mysql_community_edition_and_innodb.html*
, and the features here: http://www.mysql.com/products/community/



As of 5.5 InnoDB is the default engine for MySQL instead of MyISAM,
so that by default people's data is stored in a transactional, ACID
compliant way.



Paul



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