On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 18:58, bardo <email@example.com> wrote:
> Hi all.
> Recently I've been having fun with the latest pulseaudio quirk: it
> doesn't build because of the --as-needed flag in linking. I don't
> understand linking in depth, but as I understood it there's some
> dependency cycle that gets triggered by the aforementioned ld flag.
> However this doesn't happen when building in a chroot, where the
> package builds fine.
> It isn't the only package where it happens, and I have a handful of
> questions about the correct way to handle this.
> 1. If something like this happens, is it an upstream bug?
> 2. If it builds fine in a chroot there's obviously a software that
> triggers the bug, does it mean I am missing a dependency?
> 3. If a package builds inside a chroot but not outside, should it be
> changed in such a way that it builds everywhere regardless of the
> changes that are to be made? Or should it be left as it is, and
> related bugs closed with "build it in a chroot"?
> 4. What does the absence of the ld flag imply in practical terms? Is
> it just a "nice to have" or has it some real implications?
1.) Depends on whether they see it as such
get all annoyed and tag the bug as WONTFIX. Others care about it
and take a look into it. I would file it upstream though, just in case.
Also, check the Gentoo bug reports, both closed and open, for your
problem -- Gentoo has lately been trying to resolve all --as-needed
2.) Probably not missing a dependency so much as revealing a flaw in
how the software is built (or the linker itself). --as-needed affects how
binaries link in other stuff, a certain package may trigger the problem.
3.) I would say, personally, make it build the same everywhere. Do put
a comment in the PKGBUILD though, for future reference by others
4.) --as-needed reduces some of the library dependencies of binaries,
and also speeds up the dynamic linking step -- applications start faster.
Therefore, it's nice to have, but can be removed if it presents problems
(as it does every now and again).
And lastly, please filter --as-needed in a sane way instead of exporting
I like the following three-line solution to filter all variants of
Again, please tag that block with a comment about the failure and that it
doesn't fail in a clean chroot or whatever
Hope that helps,