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Old 06-23-2011, 02:30 PM
Sven-Hendrik Haase
 
Default Discussion about deprecating/removing the changelog feature from pacman.

On 06/23/2011 04:19 PM, Thomas Dziedzic wrote:

I would like to bring up a point which has been annoying me for a while and
I would like to get it out there.

I will argue that the changelog feature is unnecessary in pacman/PKGBUILDs.

1.) It's a feature rarely used by anyone, e.g. there are changelogs which
exist which haven't been updated in years which I encounter and remove right
away.

2.)Svn log usually serves the same purpose, and I can not think of any
benefits changelogs provide over svn log.

3.)I can not think of one package I have encountered that included a useful
changelog.

Some ways to go about removing it are:
declare deprecated -> remove after some time
or just remove changelog support right away
The last option might be viable given its small audience.


+1 for all the reasons you stated.

I favor removing changelog right away.
 
Old 06-23-2011, 02:30 PM
Sven-Hendrik Haase
 
Default Discussion about deprecating/removing the changelog feature from pacman.

On 06/23/2011 04:19 PM, Thomas Dziedzic wrote:

I would like to bring up a point which has been annoying me for a while and
I would like to get it out there.

I will argue that the changelog feature is unnecessary in pacman/PKGBUILDs.

1.) It's a feature rarely used by anyone, e.g. there are changelogs which
exist which haven't been updated in years which I encounter and remove right
away.

2.)Svn log usually serves the same purpose, and I can not think of any
benefits changelogs provide over svn log.

3.)I can not think of one package I have encountered that included a useful
changelog.

Some ways to go about removing it are:
declare deprecated -> remove after some time
or just remove changelog support right away
The last option might be viable given its small audience.


+1 for all the reasons you stated.

I favor removing changelog right away.
 
Old 06-23-2011, 03:04 PM
Dan McGee
 
Default Discussion about deprecating/removing the changelog feature from pacman.

On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Sven-Hendrik Haase <sh@lutzhaase.com> wrote:
> On 06/23/2011 04:19 PM, Thomas Dziedzic wrote:
>>
>> I would like to bring up a point which has been annoying me for a while
>> and
>> I would like to get it out there.
>>
>> I will argue that the changelog feature is unnecessary in
>> pacman/PKGBUILDs.
>>
>> 1.) It's a feature rarely used by anyone, e.g. there are changelogs which
>> exist which haven't been updated in years which I encounter and remove
>> right
>> away.
>>
>> 2.)Svn log usually serves the same purpose, and I can not think of any
>> benefits changelogs provide over svn log.
>>
>> 3.)I can not think of one package I have encountered that included a
>> useful
>> changelog.
>>
>> Some ways to go about removing it are:
>> declare deprecated -> *remove after some time
>> or just remove changelog support right away
>> The last option might be viable given its small audience.
>>
> +1 for all the reasons you stated.
>
> I favor removing changelog right away.

So confused. Should we remove deltas too? And support for bz2/xz
packages and databases?

Why on earth would we remove a feature that someone might use, even if
Arch is not making extensive use of it? This is incredibly
shortsighted.

-Dan
 

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