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Old 11-29-2009, 10:45 AM
Xavier
 
Default old delta stat

At some point during this year, I was generating delta for each update
that came in.
I don't remember if I posted any results here, so just in case, before
I throw all this stuff away, I will post the filesize I got here
Looking quickly at it, it seems a gnome update would see an awesome benefit.

12K abs-2.3.1-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
4,0K abs-2.3.1-1_to_2.3.2-2-i686.delta
4,0K abs-2.3-1_to_2.3.1-1-i686.delta
12K abs-2.3.2-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz
80K acl-2.2.47-1_to_2.2.47-2-i686.delta
156K acl-2.2.47-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz
20K alacarte-0.11.8-1_to_0.12.1-1-i686.delta
132K alacarte-0.12.1-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
408K alsa-lib-1.0.19-1_to_1.0.20-1-i686.delta
484K alsa-lib-1.0.20-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
128K alsa-utils-1.0.19-1_to_1.0.20-1-i686.delta
1,1M alsa-utils-1.0.20-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
84K alsa-utils-1.0.20-1_to_1.0.20-2-i686.delta
1,1M alsa-utils-1.0.20-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz
32K asciidoc-8.3.4-1_to_8.4.2-1-i686.delta
144K asciidoc-8.4.2-1.pkg.tar.gz
20K asciidoc-8.4.2-1_to_8.4.5-1-i686.delta
148K asciidoc-8.4.5-1.pkg.tar.gz
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244K atk-1.26.0-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
256K at-spi-1.24.1-1_to_1.26.0-1-i686.delta
700K at-spi-1.26.0-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
156K audiofile-0.2.6-3_to_0.2.6-4-i686.delta
156K audiofile-0.2.6-4-i686.pkg.tar.gz
280K automake-1.10.2-1_to_1.11-1-i686.delta
596K automake-1.11-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
84K avahi-0.6.24-1_to_0.6.24-2-i686.delta
744K avahi-0.6.24-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz
368K avahi-0.6.24-2_to_0.6.25-1-i686.delta
720K avahi-0.6.25-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
888K banshee-1.4.2-2_to_1.4.3-3-i686.delta
2,7M banshee-1.4.3-3-i686.pkg.tar.gz
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960K bash-4.0.024-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
80K bash-completion-1.0-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
4,0K bash-completion-1.0-1_to_1.0-2-i686.delta
80K bash-completion-1.0-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz
80K bash-completion-20091103-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
56K bin86-0.16.17-3_to_0.16.17-4-i686.delta
64K bin86-0.16.17-4-i686.pkg.tar.gz
2,0M binutils-2.19.1-1_to_2.19.1-3-i686.delta
3,7M binutils-2.19.1-3-i686.pkg.tar.gz
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3,7M binutils-2.19.1-4-i686.pkg.tar.gz
564K bluez-4.30-1_to_4.39-1-i686.delta
656K bluez-4.39-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
492K boo-0.9.0.3203-2_to_0.9.1.3287-1-i686.delta
572K boo-0.9.1.3287-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
260K brasero-0.9.1-1_to_0.9.1-2-i686.delta
2,8M brasero-0.9.1-2.pkg.tar.gz
1,9M brasero-0.9.1-2_to_2.26.2-1-i686.delta
3,5M brasero-2.26.2-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
352K brasero-2.26.2-1_to_2.26.3-1-i686.delta
3,3M brasero-2.26.3-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
384K brltty-3.10-1_to_3.10-2-i686.delta
1000K brltty-3.10-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz
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864K bug-buddy-2.26.0-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
428K bug-buddy-2.26.0-1_to_2.26.0-2-i686.delta
848K bug-buddy-2.26.0-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz
24K bzip2-1.0.5-3_to_1.0.5-4-i686.delta
92K bzip2-1.0.5-4-i686.pkg.tar.gz
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100K ca-certificates-java-20081028-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz
264K cairo-1.8.6-1_to_1.8.8-1-i686.delta
428K cairo-1.8.8-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
108K cairomm-1.6.4-1_to_1.8.0-1-i686.delta
140K cairomm-1.8.0-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
288K cdrkit-1.1.9-1_to_1.1.9-2-i686.delta
1,1M cdrkit-1.1.9-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz
260K cheese-2.24.3-1_to_2.26.2-1-i686.delta
2,7M cheese-2.26.2-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
36K cheese-2.26.2-1_to_2.26.3-1-i686.delta
2,7M cheese-2.26.3-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
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8,0K compositeproto-0.4-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz
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100K consolekit-0.3.0-5-i686.pkg.tar.gz
60K coreutils-7.1-1_to_7.1-2-i686.delta
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132K cpio-2.9-5-i686.pkg.tar.gz
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440K cracklib-2.8.13-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz
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12K crda-1.0.1-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz
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12K crda-1.1.0-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
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564K cryptsetup-1.0.6-3-i686.pkg.tar.gz
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536K curl-7.19.5-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
60K curl-7.19.5-1_to_7.19.5-2-i686.delta
540K curl-7.19.5-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz
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8,0K damageproto-1.1.0-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz
32K dash-0.5.5.1-1_to_0.5.5.1-2-i686.delta
76K dash-0.5.5.1-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz
9,1M dasher-4.10.1-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
372K dasher-4.9.0-1_to_4.10.1-1-i686.delta
3,3M db-4.7.25-2_to_4.7.25.4-1-i686.delta
4,1M db-4.7.25.4-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
28K dbus-1.2.14-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
8,0K dbus-1.2.4-1_to_1.2.4.4permissive-1-i686.delta
28K dbus-1.2.4.4permissive-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
12K dbus-1.2.4.4permissive-1_to_1.2.14-1-i686.delta
348K dbus-core-1.2.14-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
188K dbus-core-1.2.4-1_to_1.2.4.4permissive-1-i686.delta
344K dbus-core-1.2.4.4permissive-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
284K dbus-core-1.2.4.4permissive-1_to_1.2.14-1-i686.delta
68K dbus-glib-0.78-1_to_0.80-1-i686.delta
128K dbus-glib-0.80-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
12K dcron-3.2-3_to_3.2-4-i686.delta
16K dcron-3.2-4-i686.pkg.tar.gz
132K delta.db.tar.gz
132K delta.db.tar.gz.old
272K deskbar-applet-2.24.3-1_to_2.26.2-1-i686.delta
1,3M deskbar-applet-2.26.2-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
68K devicekit-power-007-1_to_008-1-i686.delta
112K devicekit-power-008-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
28K device-mapper-1.02.30-1_to_1.02.31-1-i686.delta
128K device-mapper-1.02.31-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
428K device-mapper-1.02.31-1_to_1.02.32-1-i686.delta
412K device-mapper-1.02.32-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
176K device-mapper-1.02.32-1_to_1.02.32-2-i686.delta
416K device-mapper-1.02.32-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz
60K dhcpcd-4.0.12-1_to_5.0.2-1-i686.delta
60K dhcpcd-5.0.2-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
16K dhcpcd-5.0.2-1_to_5.0.4-1-i686.delta
60K dhcpcd-5.0.4-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
76K dialog-1.1_20080819-1_to_1.1_20080819-2-i686.delta
88K dialog-1.1_20080819-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz
40K dmapi-2.2.10-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
4,0K dmapi-2.2.9-1_to_2.2.10-1-i686.delta
4,0K dmxproto-2.2.2-1_to_2.2.2-2-i686.delta
8,0K dmxproto-2.2.2-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz
872K dnsutils-9.6.0.P1-1_to_9.6.0.P1-2-i686.delta
2,2M dnsutils-9.6.0.P1-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz
8,0K docbook-xml-4.5-1_to_4.5-2-i686.delta
332K docbook-xml-4.5-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz
4,0K dri2proto-1.99.3-1_to_2.0-1-i686.delta
4,0K dri2proto-2.0-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
784K e2fsprogs-1.41.4-1_to_1.41.5-2-i686.delta
1,3M e2fsprogs-1.41.5-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz
376K e2fsprogs-1.41.5-2_to_1.41.6-1-i686.delta
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20K ed-1.2-1_to_1.3-1-i686.delta
48K ed-1.3-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
144K eel-2.24.1-1_to_2.26.0-1-i686.delta
304K eel-2.26.0-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
12K eject-2.1.5-3_to_2.1.5-4-i686.delta
32K eject-2.1.5-4-i686.pkg.tar.gz
2,4M ekiga-3.0.2-1_to_3.2.4-1-i686.delta
10M ekiga-3.2.4-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
7,1M emacs-22.3-1_to_22.3-2-i686.delta
32M emacs-22.3-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz
688K eog-2.24.3.1-1_to_2.26.2-1-i686.delta
2,0M eog-2.26.2-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
192K eog-2.26.2-1_to_2.26.3-1-i686.delta
2,0M eog-2.26.3-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
840K epiphany-2.24.3-1_to_2.26.2-1-i686.delta
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376K epiphany-2.26.2-1_to_2.26.3-1-i686.delta
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792K evince-2.24.2-2_to_2.26.2-1-i686.delta
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248K evince-2.26.2-1_to_2.26.2-2-i686.delta
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1,1M evolution-data-server-2.26.2-1_to_2.26.3-1-i686.delta
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220K evolution-exchange-2.24.4-1_to_2.26.2-1-i686.delta
664K evolution-exchange-2.26.2-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
104K evolution-exchange-2.26.2-1_to_2.26.3-1-i686.delta
676K evolution-exchange-2.26.3-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
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84K evolution-webcal-2.26.0-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
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60K fakeroot-1.12.2-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
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60K fakeroot-1.12.2-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz
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60K fakeroot-1.12.4-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
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96K fam-2.7.0-12-i686.pkg.tar.gz
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96K fam-2.7.0-14-i686.pkg.tar.gz
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284K file-5.03-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz
388K file-roller-2.24.3-1_to_2.26.2-1-i686.delta
1,3M file-roller-2.26.2-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
104K file-roller-2.26.2-1_to_2.26.3-1-i686.delta
1,3M file-roller-2.26.3-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
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16K filesystem-2009.01-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz
316K findutils-4.4.0-1_to_4.4.1-2-i686.delta
496K findutils-4.4.1-2-i686.pkg.tar.gz
80K findutils-4.4.1-2_to_4.4.2-1-i686.delta
496K findutils-4.4.2-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz
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132K firefox-3.0.10-1_to_3.0.11-1-i686.delta
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76K firefox-3.0.7-1_to_3.0.10-1-i686.delta
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280K flex-2.5.35-3-i686.pkg.tar.gz
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Old 11-30-2009, 12:54 AM
"Allan McRae"
 
Default old delta stat

Xavier wrote:

At some point during this year, I was generating delta for each update
that came in.
I don't remember if I posted any results here, so just in case, before
I throw all this stuff away, I will post the filesize I got here
Looking quickly at it, it seems a gnome update would see an awesome benefit.


<snip>

Those numbers do indeed look quite nice.

Can you remind me what the status of the repo delta cleanup script is?
And do deltas work nicely with xz files given xdelta3 is patched for it?


Allan
 
Old 11-30-2009, 07:20 AM
Xavier
 
Default old delta stat

On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 2:54 AM, Allan McRae <allan@archlinux.org> wrote:
> Xavier wrote:
>>
>> At some point during this year, I was generating delta for each update
>> that came in.
>> I don't remember if I posted any results here, so just in case, before
>> I throw all this stuff away, I will post the filesize I got here
>> Looking quickly at it, it seems a gnome update would see an awesome
>> benefit.
>>
> <snip>
>
> Those numbers do indeed look quite nice.
>
> Can you remind me what the status of the repo delta cleanup script is? And
> do deltas work nicely with xz files given xdelta3 is patched for it?
>

1) Repo delta cleanup script :
I am more or less happy with the basic logic of my patch :
http://code.toofishes.net/cgit/xavier/pacman.git/commit/?h=working&id=8a3c54bf3622a4af6e2b45945412fa3e0299 4e45

The problem is the interface :
cleanupdelta [-b <pacman db>] core extra ... : check the listed sync databases

Say you have core.db.tar.gz somewhere. You need to extract that to
$FOO/sync/core/
then use cleanupdelta -b $FOO core

Looks kinda ugly.. Ideally we would be able to run cleanupdelta
directly on the tar.gz , but we are not there yet.

2) xz + xdelta3

I stole a script from bbs that I edited slightly and posted to this ML
earlier this year. This script allowed to take all packages from the
cache directory and generate all deltas it can from that.
It was quite easy to take the cache of .gz packages, and convert that
to two other caches of .xz and .bz2 packages, and then run this delta
script on each cache. It also prints out the ratio delta size /
package size for each delta.
So iirc, ratio were worse for xz packages than gz, but still alright.
But I don' t remember the numbers

Anyway, the delta size between two xz packages or two gz packages
should be exactly the same, since the delta is made between
uncompressed data. I would just expect the meta-info inside the delta
to be slightly different because of different filenames and
compression.
That means the better the package compression is, the less interesting
the deltas are (because they automatically get a bigger ratio).

Finally, xdelta3 was finally recently patched to support xz :
http://code.google.com/p/xdelta/source/detail?r=298#
I don't know in which upstream release this belongs. It seems the last
release 3.0w was on Oct 25 and the patch on Oct 27 but it will
probably be in the next one.
Anyway the patch is exactly the same as the one we have in our xdelta3
package currently.
 

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