On 10 Aug 2012 22:52, "Ralf Mardorf" <ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net> wrote:
>. PA until today is pure crap for MOST
> computer users (including those who try to switch to Linux), I don't
> like to hear again and again, that it does work for most Linux users, I
> even DOUBT that very much.
>
This again? Let's paraphrase:-
Software X sucks for most users, since I've personally read 3 million
separate user complaints. Don't tell me I'm wrong because I know I'm not. I
don't care that all the biggest distros use software X, their users
obviously don't play music. Oh, and very few people actually use simple
stereo audio chips, the majority of people use multi channel audio cards to
listen to their YouTube.

Copy, paste, on all the mailing lists I frequent.

Do you have any idea how ridiculous this sounds, after a while?

On 08/10/2012 11:50 AM, Oon-Ee Ng wrote:

On 10 Aug 2012 22:52, "Ralf Mardorf" <ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net> wrote:

. PA until today is pure crap for MOST
computer users (including those who try to switch to Linux), I don't
like to hear again and again, that it does work for most Linux users, I
even DOUBT that very much.


This again? Let's paraphrase:-
Software X sucks for most users, since I've personally read 3 million
separate user complaints. Don't tell me I'm wrong because I know I'm not. I
don't care that all the biggest distros use software X, their users
obviously don't play music. Oh, and very few people actually use simple
stereo audio chips, the majority of people use multi channel audio cards to
listen to their YouTube.

Copy, paste, on all the mailing lists I frequent.

Do you have any idea how ridiculous this sounds, after a while?

I don't wish to get into that particular disagreement but......

pulse audio doesn't work for me in the two boxen I have it on.
It just gets in the way and when it is removed I can set my audio just
how I want it.
With pulse it just takes over the master volume when it try to adjust
audio in an application cranking the master volume to full.
Without pulse it just works the way I like it to be. So count me as one
of the ones who doesn't like pulse audio.

On Aug 10, 2012 5:59 PM, "Ralf Mardorf" <ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net> wrote:
> As already reported, both, the version from the repositories + this
> patched version works with the NM applet on my Xfce, unfortunately the
> patched version brakes Thunar.

Thanks.

Tom

On Aug 10, 2012 6:09 PM, "Ralf Mardorf" <ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2012-08-10 at 23:50 +0800, Oon-Ee Ng wrote:
> > Oh, and very few people actually use simple stereo audio chips, the
> > majority of people use multi channel audio cards to listen to their
> > YouTube.
>
> Puleaudio doesn't work for many people simply using stereo with on-board
> devices. We are living in the mass media age, so "multi channel cards"
> are not that seldom, resp. stereo cards with better sound quality, that
> are based on microchips such as the Envy24.

Please guys, not again...

Take your concerns upstream, nothing will come off rehashing them here for
the hundredths time.

Tom