On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 14:56:39 -0500
"David C. Rankin" <drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com> wrote:
> On 08/05/2012 11:02 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> > The whole point is, if you're reading the install guide you don't need
> > any information in the beginners guide. At the very beginning of each
> > of those guides the intended audiences are described.
>
> I get that, and I do appreciate the concise nature of the install_guide. On
> the other hand, what percentage of users are already grub2 experts?
>
Well, you don't have to be an expert in bootloaders to use them these days.
For example, I don't even care about the format of syslinux.cfg, yet I
installed syslinux on my Arch router w/o any problems. You have to know about
MBR, initramfs and kernel image, but that's about it. On the other hand, if
someone wants to boot from an encrypted LVM volume with UEFI and GPT -- either
learn or use Fedora...
On 08/09/2012 08:43 PM, Oon-Ee Ng wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 3:56 AM, David C. Rankin
> <drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com> wrote:
>> On 08/05/2012 11:02 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>>>
>>> The whole point is, if you're reading the install guide you don't need
>>> any information in the beginners guide. At the very beginning of each
>>> of those guides the intended audiences are described.
>>
>>
>> I get that, and I do appreciate the concise nature of the install_guide. On
>> the other hand, what percentage of users are already grub2 experts?
>
> The installation guide is for those who know what they're doing. That
> INCLUDES (IMHO) the knowledge that grub2 exists and that it has its
> own wiki page. Conciseness is more important for this page than trying
> to include things some people may not know.
>
I agree with all you said. I guess I just look at it from the standpoint of
"What would someone who wants to try Arch need to make it work, and how could it
be made easier?" The conciseness is great, but the easier it is to follow the
trail, the better.
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 10:42 AM, David C. Rankin
<drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com> wrote:
> On 08/09/2012 08:43 PM, Oon-Ee Ng wrote:
>> On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 3:56 AM, David C. Rankin
>> <drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 08/05/2012 11:02 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The whole point is, if you're reading the install guide you don't need
>>>> any information in the beginners guide. At the very beginning of each
>>>> of those guides the intended audiences are described.
>>>
>>>
>>> I get that, and I do appreciate the concise nature of the install_guide. On
>>> the other hand, what percentage of users are already grub2 experts?
>>
>> The installation guide is for those who know what they're doing. That
>> INCLUDES (IMHO) the knowledge that grub2 exists and that it has its
>> own wiki page. Conciseness is more important for this page than trying
>> to include things some people may not know.
>>
>
> I agree with all you said. I guess I just look at it from the standpoint of
> "What would someone who wants to try Arch need to make it work, and how could it
> be made easier?" The conciseness is great, but the easier it is to follow the
> trail, the better.
Installation_Guide - fix concerning bootloader config reference
