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Old 08-04-2012, 06:20 AM
Jason Ryan
 
Default New dual install iso -- Where the heck is arch-setup??

On 04/08/12 at 01:17am, David C. Rankin wrote:
> Guys,
>
> What happened to the arch setup autoinstaller script that guided you though
> the install process?? It was minimal, and worked very well to guide you through.
> Even helpful with raid installs after your arrays were assembled and
> partitioned. Now, unless I'm completely missing something, we a back to a total
> manual install with archlinux-2012.07.15-netinstall. I've looked at the basic
> setup wiki and the install guide wiki and I don't see the friendly install tool
> referenced anywhere. So am I missing it, or are we just back to a manual
> install? (guessing where packages are /usr/bin, /usr/sbin or /sbin. On
> archlinux-2012.07.15-netinstall, /usr/sbin is not in the default path, so typing
> dhcpcd as instructed in the wiki -- does nothing...
>
> I really liked the old arch installer. It was a fairly brain-dead install that
> nicely walked you though the install process with minimal keystrokes and choices
> required. Is that installer on the archlinux-2012.07.15-netinstall image? If so
> where?
>
> (This is an arch client vbox install if that makes any difference...)
>

http://www.archlinux.org/news/install-media-20120715-released/

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Old 08-04-2012, 06:25 AM
Daniel Wallace
 
Default New dual install iso -- Where the heck is arch-setup??

On Sat, Aug 04, 2012 at 01:17:37AM -0500, David C. Rankin wrote:
> Guys,
>
> What happened to the arch setup autoinstaller script that guided you though
> the install process?? It was minimal, and worked very well to guide you through.
> Even helpful with raid installs after your arrays were assembled and
> partitioned. Now, unless I'm completely missing something, we a back to a total
> manual install with archlinux-2012.07.15-netinstall. I've looked at the basic
> setup wiki and the install guide wiki and I don't see the friendly install tool
> referenced anywhere. So am I missing it, or are we just back to a manual
> install? (guessing where packages are /usr/bin, /usr/sbin or /sbin. On
> archlinux-2012.07.15-netinstall, /usr/sbin is not in the default path, so typing
> dhcpcd as instructed in the wiki -- does nothing...
>
> I really liked the old arch installer. It was a fairly brain-dead install that
> nicely walked you though the install process with minimal keystrokes and choices
> required. Is that installer on the archlinux-2012.07.15-netinstall image? If so
> where?
>
> (This is an arch client vbox install if that makes any difference...)
>
> --
> David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

http://www.archlinux.org/news/install-media-20120715-released/

If is not on the iso because it is broken. It has plenty of bugs which
you can see for yourself in the bug tracker
https://bugs.archlinux.org/index.php?project=6

It definitly needs a patch for the fact that grub is no longer a
package in the repositories, the iso comming out soon, 20120804 will
have grub2 on it so people with efi should be able to use it. The
partitioning has been long broken in the testing isos. And aif has no
maintainer. If you want to help get it back onto the iso, go read the
releng mailing list. Other than that, learn to use the new install
scripts. They basically simplify the way you have always been able to
install Archlinux https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Install_from_Existing_Linux .
This works because the livecd is an Existing Linux installation. For
more information about the install scripts see
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Install_Scripts and help
update the beginners guide where it needs to be changed.

If you are going to complain how this isn't K.I.S.S. here is a blogpost
from Pierre Schmitz on how Archlinux was originally installed
https://pierre-schmitz.com/how-your-parents-installed-arch/

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Daniel Wallace
Archlinux Trusted User (gtmanfred)
Georgia Institute of Technology
 

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