I've read the wiki page for arch-install-scripts. It is not very
"user-friendly". Any hope to see this "embedded" in a program, like
good old arch/setup ?
I'm not afraid of these scripts, but it could drive away some users
which are not ready for a so "simplified" installation tool.
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fredbezies@gmail.com
For the beginner's guide, I think there should merely be a lot more explanation for those commands instead of a wrapper script. I think it's awesome for beginners to see how easily and simply a system is actually installed. It is both educative and effective in communicating the arch way.
07-16-2012, 11:40 AM
Leandro Inacio
About arch-install-scripts and new official iso.
2012/7/16 fredbezies <fredbezies@gmail.com>
> Hello.
>
> I've read the wiki page for arch-install-scripts. It is not very
> "user-friendly". Any hope to see this "embedded" in a program, like
> good old arch/setup ?
>
> I'm not afraid of these scripts, but it could drive away some users
> which are not ready for a so "simplified" installation tool.
--
> Frederic Bezies
> fredbezies@gmail.com
>
I think you want to use ArchBoot, the oldest oficial setup.
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07-16-2012, 12:01 PM
Tom Gundersen
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On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 1:28 PM, fredbezies <fredbezies@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've read the wiki page for arch-install-scripts. It is not very
> "user-friendly". Any hope to see this "embedded" in a program, like
> good old arch/setup ?
Personally I think we would be better off with just these scripts +
lots of documentation. If you are interested in an installer, then I
guess the best solution is to get involved with the AIF and get it
into shape again.
> I'm not afraid of these scripts, but it could drive away some users
> which are not ready for a so "simplified" installation tool.
I think this is a good thing (once we have proper documentation). It
forces users to understand how their system is set up, and how to fix
it in case of problems. Unlike with other distributions (e.g. Ubuntu),
I think this is a necessity when using Arch, and making this clear
from the beginning should hopefully save both us and users from lots
of grief.
-t
07-16-2012, 12:13 PM
Gaetan Bisson
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[2012-07-16 13:28:00 +0200] fredbezies:
> I'm not afraid of these scripts, but it could drive away some users
> which are not ready for a so "simplified" installation tool.
In view of the many issues and complaints related to the move from /lib
to /usr/lib, it seems pretty clear to me that most people who are
uncomfortable partitioning their disk manually (or unwilling to learn)
will not grow to enjoy Arch as a distribution.
--
Gaetan
07-16-2012, 12:13 PM
Christoph Vigano
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> Personally I think we would be better off with just these scripts
> + lots of documentation. If you are interested in an installer,
> then I guess the best solution is to get involved with the AIF and
> get it into shape again.
Speaking of which: how can one get involved into the development of AIF?
Is there something like a bug list for it? What needs to be done?
Something different: how can one install a fresh system of Arch Linux
using those scripts? Are these available on Archboot?
Links to information online are greatly appreciated!
Greetings,
Christoph
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Am Mon, 16 Jul 2012 13:28:00 +0200
schrieb fredbezies <fredbezies@gmail.com>:
> Hello.
>
> I've read the wiki page for arch-install-scripts. It is not very
> "user-friendly". Any hope to see this "embedded" in a program, like
> good old arch/setup ?
>
> I'm not afraid of these scripts, but it could drive away some users
> which are not ready for a so "simplified" installation tool.
>
It uses a working installer for quite everything.
For complete systemd support next ISO would be better to use,
I'm only waiting for core changes to calm down first.
greetings
tpowa
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Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa)
http://www.archlinux.org
tpowa@archlinux.org
07-16-2012, 06:16 PM
C Anthony Risinger
About arch-install-scripts and new official iso.
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 7:25 AM, Tobias Powalowski
<tobias.powalowski@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Am Mon, 16 Jul 2012 13:28:00 +0200
> schrieb fredbezies <fredbezies@gmail.com>:
>
>> Hello.
>>
>> I've read the wiki page for arch-install-scripts. It is not very
>> "user-friendly". Any hope to see this "embedded" in a program, like
>> good old arch/setup ?
>>
>> I'm not afraid of these scripts, but it could drive away some users
>> which are not ready for a so "simplified" installation tool.
>>
>
> Archboot:
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Archboot
> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=143541
>
> It uses a working installer for quite everything.
> For complete systemd support next ISO would be better to use,
> I'm only waiting for core changes to calm down first.
> greetings
> tpowa
> --
> Tobias Powalowski
> Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa)
> http://www.archlinux.org
> tpowa@archlinux.org
out of curiousity, why doesn't archboot take AIF's place? it's always
worked pretty good and i have long since use it exclusively.
... though i can certainly understand if the reason is not wanting to
be driven or constrained by such burdens.
--
C Anthony
07-16-2012, 11:03 PM
Kevin Chadwick
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> Archboot:
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Archboot
> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=143541
>
> It uses a working installer for quite everything.
> For complete systemd support next ISO would be better to use,
> I'm only waiting for core changes to calm down first.
> greetings
> tpowa
Preparing harddisk, like auto-prepare, partitioning, GUID (gpt)
support, 4k sector drive support etc.
Is there a an Archboot specific interface for auto-prepare like AIF or
do you just feed fdisk/parted or something?
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