On Jun 19, 2012 9:29 AM, "Alper Kanat" <tunix@raptiye.org> wrote:
>
> We bought our VPS' from Hetzner btw. Hetzner is a German ISP which
provides
> cheap (starts from 7€ just look at the price page) but rock solid servers.
> They don't officially support Arch Linux but the installation is trivial.
>
> ---
> Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

I use VPS-Forge which is also cheap - $8 a month starting. They support
Arch (and are very friendly)

Calvin

On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 07:43:06AM -0500, Culley Smith wrote:
> I have a Linode server running Arch. I did a little tinkering to enable
> kernel updates, but that's about it. I keep things up to date through
> Pacman and haven't had many problems at all. I've run php, ruby on
> rails, apache, nginx, mysql, postgresql, redis, node.js, and a number of
> server-side applications without a hitch. I have found Arch a little
> easier to configure (especially with newer technologies/versions of a
> package) than other Linux distros.
>
> Culley
>
> On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 16:28 +0300, Alper Kanat wrote:
>
> > We bought our VPS' from Hetzner btw. Hetzner is a German ISP which provides
> > cheap (starts from 7€ just look at the price page) but rock solid servers.
> > They don't officially support Arch Linux but the installation is trivial.
> >
> > ---
> > Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
>

I'm not sure if these responses are really helping OP. He asked about
running Arch on a web server, not a thread of web hosting company ads.

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On Jun 19, 2012 9:42 AM, "Szu-Han Chen" <sjchen@sjchen.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 07:43:06AM -0500, Culley Smith wrote:
> > I have a Linode server running Arch. I did a little tinkering to enable
> > kernel updates, but that's about it. I keep things up to date through
> > Pacman and haven't had many problems at all. I've run php, ruby on
> > rails, apache, nginx, mysql, postgresql, redis, node.js, and a number of
> > server-side applications without a hitch. I have found Arch a little
> > easier to configure (especially with newer technologies/versions of a
> > package) than other Linux distros.
> >
> > Culley
> >
> > On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 16:28 +0300, Alper Kanat wrote:
> >
> > > We bought our VPS' from Hetzner btw. Hetzner is a German ISP which
provides
> > > cheap (starts from 7€ just look at the price page) but rock solid
servers.
> > > They don't officially support Arch Linux but the installation is
trivial.
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
> >
>
> I'm not sure if these responses are really helping OP. He asked about
> running Arch on a web server, not a thread of web hosting company ads.
>
> --
> --Szu-Han Chen (sjchen.com)
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There are always more eyes than just the OP

On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Szu-Han Chen <sjchen@sjchen.com> wrote:
> I'm not sure if these responses are really helping OP. He asked about
> running Arch on a web server, not a thread of web hosting company ads.

I'm not sure you really read the whole thread, but the OP explicitly
asked for input on host providers supporting Arch

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On 06/19/2012 03:42 PM, Szu-Han Chen wrote:

On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 07:43:06AM -0500, Culley Smith wrote:

I have a Linode server running Arch. I did a little tinkering to enable
kernel updates, but that's about it. I keep things up to date through
Pacman and haven't had many problems at all. I've run php, ruby on
rails, apache, nginx, mysql, postgresql, redis, node.js, and a number of
server-side applications without a hitch. I have found Arch a little
easier to configure (especially with newer technologies/versions of a
package) than other Linux distros.

Culley

On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 16:28 +0300, Alper Kanat wrote:


We bought our VPS' from Hetzner btw. Hetzner is a German ISP which provides
cheap (starts from 7€ just look at the price page) but rock solid servers.
They don't officially support Arch Linux but the installation is trivial.

---
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

I'm not sure if these responses are really helping OP.*He asked about
running Arch on a web server*, not a thread of web hosting company ads.

Was right now just thinking same. That's good to get some nice VPS
provider names,but I am not sure to know more if I shall stay with Arch
or go debian! Please bear in mind I am not a tech pro, and even if I
want to build the web server on my own coz tech is a hobby, I am looking
for something not too difficult to deal with configuration, updates, and
security.

On 06/19/2012 03:48 PM, Denis A. Altoé Falqueto wrote:

On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Szu-Han Chen <sjchen@sjchen.com> wrote:

I'm not sure if these responses are really helping OP. He asked about
running Arch on a web server, not a thread of web hosting company ads.

I'm not sure you really read the whole thread, but the OP explicitly
asked for input on host providers supporting Arch

You are right Denis, I asked too for providers supporting Arch, as it
seems they are not so common.


Please, there is no need to start a flame!! And TY for all these advises.

On 19 June 2012 14:49, Arno Gaboury <arnaud.gaboury@gmail.com> wrote:
> Please bear in mind I am not a tech pro, and even if I want to build the web
> server on my own coz tech is a hobby, I am looking for something not too
> difficult to deal with configuration, updates, and security.

1. Use what you are familiar with regarding your plans.
2. If you are not familiar with any particular OS regarding use cases
you are aiming,
then flip a coin with Debian on one side, and Cent OS on the other.

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On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Arno Gaboury <arnaud.gaboury@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I'm not sure if these responses are really helping OP. He asked about
>>> running Arch on a web server, not a thread of web hosting company ads.
>>
>> I'm not sure you really read the whole thread, but the OP explicitly
>> asked for input on host providers supporting Arch
>>
> You are right Denis, I asked too for providers supporting Arch, as it seems
> they are not so common.
>
> Please, there is no need to start a flame!! And TY for all these advises.

Oh, no flame from me Just pointing it out. Look at the smiley at the end

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On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 12:08:02PM +0200, Sven-Hendrik Haase wrote:
> On 06/19/2012 11:56 AM, Arno Gaboury wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I plan to settle in the comimg months a web server to deliver many
> > services to the trading community (I am myself a trader).
> >
> > I daily use Arch as my system on my home box, and I must admit I am
> > very satisfied by its strength and its very active and deep involved
> > community. My plan is to first train building the website on a VM
> > server, then go to a remote dedicated server.
> >
> > Can you please give me some pro/against reasons for using Debian
> > distro rather than Archlinux as a web server? Is there any provider
> > offering Arch distro, as it seems it is hard, near impossible, to find
> > one.
> >
> > TY for your advises.
> I've been running an Arch web server for 3 years and there are
> absolutely no problems.

Can you please elaborate how you manage the regular updates, especially
kernel, udev, glibc etc. Do you hold back the upgrades to packages which
require a restart?

On 06/19/2012 04:14 PM, gt wrote:
> Can you please elaborate how you manage the regular updates, especially
> kernel, udev, glibc etc. Do you hold back the upgrades to packages which
> require a restart?
>

This is exactly how I handle kernel updates. Afaik glibc and udev
updates don't require reboot.

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